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« on: March 08, 2012, 09:03:58 AM »

AA at 100/200, we make it 450.
Villain makes it 1300.
We make it 4000.
He now makes it 11k.
No notes on villain, haven't seen him at DTD before though, not in the big ones - if he's not that good, he's going broke with KK, maybe QQ.
However he knows I'm being backed which I was hoping to use to my advantage later, so he knows I'm not going crazy with a weak hand.
We both have 60k behind which is the ridiculous thing about this pot. If I have 200 bigs I probs flat, but I don't fancy risking tourney life by going to a flop and getting it in there, or on the turn.
I've never been in this spot so deep, and doubt I ever will be again. I guess this could be one for the cash players, rather than tourney players.
Thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2012, 09:26:02 AM »

Positions?
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2012, 10:01:20 AM »

Regardless of positions I'm 6-betting every day in this spot, let the guy go broke with KK/QQ or even AK
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2012, 10:03:25 AM »

Positions?

Think I was UTG+1 in this hand, villain was in the hijack
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2012, 10:06:22 AM »

You said he's going broke with KK / QQ so I'm 6betting here for sure.

It's higher variance than flatting and getting it in on 923 where you're 90% instead of 81%, but this is ofset by the times you don't stack him cos it's come A high, or it comes K high and he has QQ or he has AK and it bricks.
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2012, 10:45:18 AM »

You said he's going broke with KK / QQ

He doesn't really say that though.............. 'if he's not that good............'.

It's a spot where, whatever you do, you look really strong, and your opponent becomes really wary.
If you've already been involved in some preflop wars, either with the opponent, or that he has seen, then you can probably 6-bet smallish (18 - 20k).

If not, then I call, and hope he puts other stuff in my range (AK, QQ etc...) and gives me some more down the streets.
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2012, 10:47:25 AM »

You said he's going broke with KK / QQ

He doesn't really say that though.............. 'if he's not that good............'.

It's a spot where, whatever you do, you look really strong, and your opponent becomes really wary.
If you've already been involved in some preflop wars, either with the opponent, or that he has seen, then you can probably 6-bet smallish (18 - 20k).

If not, then I call, and hope he puts other stuff in my range (AK, QQ etc...) and gives me some more down the streets.
yeah didn't say he wont lay down KK or QQ, just havent got a strong enough read to know this
no preflop wars yet, although I had been 3 betting fairly light.. obv way different to a 4 bet
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2012, 10:51:00 AM »

so what was the outcome then?
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2012, 10:56:04 AM »

I'd make a really small 6bet vs some opponents or call against others depending on gameflow. More likely to call if he is the blinds so will be likely to have to lead out most flops

So prob lean towards small 6bet
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2012, 10:56:29 AM »

making it 28k is really bad imo.

level the guy and make it <20k and give him reason to believe he has fold equity.

also make it like 600+ pre, your deep ffs.
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2012, 10:57:52 AM »

my bad.

still 6betting cos ppl never believe me, 18k imo
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2012, 11:08:56 AM »

3x it pre antes this deep as Pleno says.

No idea what to do now tbh. Whatever you do is going to look ridic strong so I probably just shove and hope he thinks nobody would do that with AA.
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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2012, 11:11:36 AM »

yeah, should have made it way less than 28k, or way more.
made it 28k here, he thought for 10 seconds before folding KK face up.

btw in regards to making it 600, 450 was the table average, and we still never went to a flop more than 3 handed, it was rare we hit flops with 3 players in tbf, felt like it was the right raise to make at the time.
no antes involved at this stage
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2012, 12:39:06 PM »

Disagree with 3xing pre, I like your open, antes or no antes.

Perhaps just 6-bet shove...
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2012, 12:43:51 PM »

If i was you id 3x pre. Flat now
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