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jakally
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Re: Cmon England!!!!
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June 25, 2012, 06:10:01 PM »
Quote from: MANTIS01 on June 25, 2012, 05:36:40 PM
Carroll won headers and flicked them on to nobody. If nobody from your team is running in behind why are you flicking headers on? To say he got close to Pirlo at any point is fantasy. Then at the end he let a defender shoot at goal instead of stepping up himself. Great contribution. That said not one of our attacking players showed anything of note. Young and Rooney were terrible.
Carroll isn't top level international class, by any stretch, but his contribution when he came on was fine.
He flicked some balls on, and brought some under, which is what you would expect him to do.
He also was a little more effective defensively than Welbeck and Rooney had been earlier.
He shouldn't be the kind of forward who plays behind front man, and therefore picks up the holding midfielder, but he still managed to do some work in that area.
I'm not a Carroll worshipper (like Pleno), but I can recognise a bit of effort, and honest endeavour when I see it.
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Re: Cmon England!!!!
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June 25, 2012, 07:33:28 PM »
Quote from: MANTIS01 on June 25, 2012, 05:36:40 PM
Carroll won headers and flicked them on to nobody. If nobody from your team is running in behind why are you flicking headers on? To say he got close to Pirlo at any point is fantasy. Then at the end he let a defender shoot at goal instead of stepping up himself. Great contribution. That said not one of our attacking players showed anything of note. Young and Rooney were terrible.
Are you so stupid that you genuinely think penalty takers choose themselves? Even at under 13s football you choose via actually taking penalties, not, who fancies a crack. Don't mean to be rude but seen people say it so much and its joke tilting.
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Re: Cmon England!!!!
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June 25, 2012, 08:22:12 PM »
Although Rooney was really very poor (I would've scored the overhead opportunity as I practice them a lot and have great muscle memory) I did think the overall set up didn't help him. Always allowed the Italians to hunt him in packs as there was no one else up there to occupy them.
AndrewT's point about Pirlo's pen was spot on - the gig was up when he put that away with such nonchalance.
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June 25, 2012, 08:46:16 PM »
Quote from: rfgqqabc on June 25, 2012, 07:33:28 PM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on June 25, 2012, 05:36:40 PM
Carroll won headers and flicked them on to nobody. If nobody from your team is running in behind why are you flicking headers on? To say he got close to Pirlo at any point is fantasy. Then at the end he let a defender shoot at goal instead of stepping up himself. Great contribution. That said not one of our attacking players showed anything of note. Young and Rooney were terrible.
Are you so stupid that you genuinely think penalty takers choose themselves? Even at under 13s football you choose via actually taking penalties, not, who fancies a crack. Don't mean to be rude but seen people say it so much and its joke tilting.
Sorry for being stupid. If a £35m striker is very keen to take a penalty and very confident he will score why is the manager saying he would prefer a left back to take it instead?
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Re: Cmon England!!!!
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June 25, 2012, 08:56:30 PM »
Quote from: Snowball on June 25, 2012, 12:03:25 AM
Do people say the back 4 played well because they kept a clean sheet over the 120 Minutes?
Italy hit the post 3 times, had a Goal chopped off(rightly) and had at least 5 one on ones with Hart.
On another Day Italy could have scored 3 or 4 easily.
Agree with this. We parked the bus every game. Awful tactics imo. Not that we'd be good enough with the right tactics but still...
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June 25, 2012, 09:01:09 PM »
I would prefer for Caroll not to take a penalty - far too tall - shame that Ashley missed (as in Cole) never really liked him but thought he came across well and also played well, as did all the defence
so hard to decide who takes pentalties - 120 minutes - mentally and physically done, can't be repliacted - perhaps the Germans are so good at them as they don't have the pressure from the press
One time for Hart to just stay still and just boot out Pirols penalty would have been class
This one did not hurt as much as the other - 90, 96 probably the worst and 98 - win one of those and we are the Champs
England please win in my lifetime, please (where is Euro 2016?)
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June 25, 2012, 09:06:02 PM »
Next one is in France.
This one definitely hurt the least.
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June 25, 2012, 09:10:40 PM »
St Dennis
Very easy to get too
I could be home in Watford for brekie on Monday
Come on England
Don't think we have a chance in Brazil (or any other Euro side probs) but France yes
96 hurts the most - golden goals and that disallowed goal in ET - wow that was like the biggest puke ever for about 3 seconds
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June 25, 2012, 09:11:08 PM »
Quote from: MANTIS01 on June 25, 2012, 08:46:16 PM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on June 25, 2012, 07:33:28 PM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on June 25, 2012, 05:36:40 PM
Carroll won headers and flicked them on to nobody. If nobody from your team is running in behind why are you flicking headers on? To say he got close to Pirlo at any point is fantasy. Then at the end he let a defender shoot at goal instead of stepping up himself. Great contribution. That said not one of our attacking players showed anything of note. Young and Rooney were terrible.
Are you so stupid that you genuinely think penalty takers choose themselves? Even at under 13s football you choose via actually taking penalties, not, who fancies a crack. Don't mean to be rude but seen people say it so much and its joke tilting.
Sorry for being stupid. If a £35m striker is very keen to take a penalty and very confident he will score why is the manager saying he would prefer a left back to take it instead?
Do we know if he was to take the 5th pen?
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Re: Cmon England!!!!
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June 25, 2012, 09:16:28 PM »
Quote from: The Baron on June 25, 2012, 09:11:08 PM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on June 25, 2012, 08:46:16 PM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on June 25, 2012, 07:33:28 PM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on June 25, 2012, 05:36:40 PM
Carroll won headers and flicked them on to nobody. If nobody from your team is running in behind why are you flicking headers on? To say he got close to Pirlo at any point is fantasy. Then at the end he let a defender shoot at goal instead of stepping up himself. Great contribution. That said not one of our attacking players showed anything of note. Young and Rooney were terrible.
Are you so stupid that you genuinely think penalty takers choose themselves? Even at under 13s football you choose via actually taking penalties, not, who fancies a crack. Don't mean to be rude but seen people say it so much and its joke tilting.
Sorry for being stupid. If a £35m striker is very keen to take a penalty and very confident he will score why is the manager saying he would prefer a left back to take it instead?
Do we know if he was to take the 5th pen?
Johnson was down for 5th.
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June 25, 2012, 11:59:39 PM »
Quote from: MANTIS01 on June 25, 2012, 08:46:16 PM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on June 25, 2012, 07:33:28 PM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on June 25, 2012, 05:36:40 PM
Carroll won headers and flicked them on to nobody. If nobody from your team is running in behind why are you flicking headers on? To say he got close to Pirlo at any point is fantasy. Then at the end he let a defender shoot at goal instead of stepping up himself. Great contribution. That said not one of our attacking players showed anything of note. Young and Rooney were terrible.
Are you so stupid that you genuinely think penalty takers choose themselves? Even at under 13s football you choose via actually taking penalties, not, who fancies a crack. Don't mean to be rude but seen people say it so much and its joke tilting.
Sorry for being stupid. If a £35m striker is very keen to take a penalty and very confident he will score why is the manager saying he would prefer a left back to take it instead?
The left back had better success in training, actually taking penalties, instead of just "feeling keen". Also, bringing in his price tag is another joke that comes with Carrol. Everyone in the world agrees they overpaid. Also, worst possible example, as Cashley may be the only truly world class player in the team, he'd get into all the teams at the euros for sure, he would probably be valued higher if we could compare age/ wasn't at the richest club in the world at his peak.
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Re: Cmon England!!!!
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June 26, 2012, 01:04:28 AM »
Quote from: rfgqqabc on June 25, 2012, 11:59:39 PM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on June 25, 2012, 08:46:16 PM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on June 25, 2012, 07:33:28 PM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on June 25, 2012, 05:36:40 PM
Carroll won headers and flicked them on to nobody. If nobody from your team is running in behind why are you flicking headers on? To say he got close to Pirlo at any point is fantasy. Then at the end he let a defender shoot at goal instead of stepping up himself. Great contribution. That said not one of our attacking players showed anything of note. Young and Rooney were terrible.
Are you so stupid that you genuinely think penalty takers choose themselves? Even at under 13s football you choose via actually taking penalties, not, who fancies a crack. Don't mean to be rude but seen people say it so much and its joke tilting.
Sorry for being stupid. If a £35m striker is very keen to take a penalty and very confident he will score why is the manager saying he would prefer a left back to take it instead?
The left back had better success in training, actually taking penalties, instead of just "feeling keen". Also, bringing in his price tag is another joke that comes with Carrol. Everyone in the world agrees they overpaid. Also, worst possible example, as Cashley may be the only truly world class player in the team, he'd get into all the teams at the euros for sure, he would probably be valued higher if we could compare age/ wasn't at the richest club in the world at his peak.
So in training both full backs had better success scoring from 12 yards than AC? Pretty embarrassing for AC imo. Agree Ashley Cole is world class during a game but penalties is just a single shot at goal and I consider him very average at that. In major championships I would prefer our penalties to be taken by strikers paid to put the ball in the net rather than defenders from now on pls. In France 98 we played the Argies in a pulsating game. At the most critical point in the penalty shootout I remember seeing David Batty walk forwards. I could not physically believe my eyes.
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Jamie Carragher was brought on at the end of extra time in one game because he was one of the best penalty takers in the squad
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Quote from: bobby1 on June 26, 2012, 01:08:08 AM
Jamie Carragher was brought on at the end of extra time in one game because he was one of the best penalty takers in the squad
Gareth Southgate was good too.
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Re: Cmon England!!!!
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June 26, 2012, 01:53:51 AM »
Quote from: MANTIS01 on June 26, 2012, 01:04:28 AM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on June 25, 2012, 11:59:39 PM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on June 25, 2012, 08:46:16 PM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on June 25, 2012, 07:33:28 PM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on June 25, 2012, 05:36:40 PM
Carroll won headers and flicked them on to nobody. If nobody from your team is running in behind why are you flicking headers on? To say he got close to Pirlo at any point is fantasy. Then at the end he let a defender shoot at goal instead of stepping up himself. Great contribution. That said not one of our attacking players showed anything of note. Young and Rooney were terrible.
Are you so stupid that you genuinely think penalty takers choose themselves? Even at under 13s football you choose via actually taking penalties, not, who fancies a crack. Don't mean to be rude but seen people say it so much and its joke tilting.
Sorry for being stupid. If a £35m striker is very keen to take a penalty and very confident he will score why is the manager saying he would prefer a left back to take it instead?
The left back had better success in training, actually taking penalties, instead of just "feeling keen". Also, bringing in his price tag is another joke that comes with Carrol. Everyone in the world agrees they overpaid. Also, worst possible example, as Cashley may be the only truly world class player in the team, he'd get into all the teams at the euros for sure, he would probably be valued higher if we could compare age/ wasn't at the richest club in the world at his peak.
So in training both full backs had better success scoring from 12 yards than AC? Pretty embarrassing for AC imo. Agree Ashley Cole is world class during a game but penalties is just a single shot at goal and I consider him very average at that. In major championships I would prefer our penalties to be taken by strikers paid to put the ball in the net rather than defenders from now on pls. In France 98 we played the Argies in a pulsating game. At the most critical point in the penalty shootout I remember seeing David Batty walk forwards. I could not physically believe my eyes.
So would I. But at the end of the day, there is clearly a reason why he stepped up instead. I remember a lot of the argie game. Had to beg my mum to let me stay up when if i asked my dad he'd have snapped said yes. Ended up crying having watched Beckham, my hero, get sent off. Lol at David Batty.
Sorry for using the word stupid, its been a bad day, i was aware it was wrong to say, but couldn't express it any other way.
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