4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s

[Eso Kral]

If you play through a VPN they will find you and they will shut you down and when they do that they will cnfoscate all the money.

Gud lack

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[anthonyl]

If they do 50/50s on 2+2, why don't you sell on there then?

Also, why would an investor be happy with 60/40 split, then 50/50 split for top 5 finish where the money is?!

[skolsuper]

Think you've been way too harsh here Alex, 50/50 with makeup is the same deal monda sold, Guy sold, and most confusingly it's the same deal you were on for live tournaments with me and Keith. Granted there's some extra risk here seeing as it ends after 4 days, but he'll probably play more tournaments in those 4 days than you could manage in a whole year playing live.

@milligan, I don't think he's been vague about who he is, although the information isn't all in this thread his 1st thread had everything included.

Since this thread is just $400 fire and forget and doesn't include any coaching, I'll take it all at 60/40, although since you're trying to build relationships I'll share it with anyone that wants to come on board.

[jackinbeat]

Just so you know, In an ideal world your markup would only be a reflection of your true roi but unfortunately real life has taught us that we must take other things into account, something such as the possibility of being grimmed.. obv not for a second saying this would happen or this is your intention but in your case from an outsiders pov I would think: I haven't met this guy in person, he spends a lot of time out of the UK, Knows first hand of people using VPNs, been quite vague on who he actually is, has been a member on the forum since 2006 but has racked up >300 posts in 3 weeks and openly admitted this was just to get staking etc. Coupled with ideally  not wanting to put any money up yourself etc. your best bet would be to do a 75/25 or 70/30 after stake back. I know it feels like a lot for the hours you are giving away, but you have already said you have nothing to do and the backers will be taking 100% of the financial risk.

Continuing the dragonsden theme I will take 5% at a one off 75/25 In backers favour after stake back deal.

Hi, I didn't realise I was being vague, happy to connect any potential backers to my facebook. Some players on here do know who I am, but you're right I did make most of my 300 posts with the intention but no solely to look for a stake. I'm no expert, but am learning quickly about backing, and my reasons for looking now are genuine, and I do believe, along with others that I'm a good investment.


Will make a revised offer when I've replied to the other new posts.

[millidonk]

Keys, fair enough if he has given all the info in another thread but there isn't much present in this one, Plus didn't see any links to the other? Surely mentioning makeup is redundant as this isnt the case here? Unless we are classing after stake back as the same as makeup which I personally don't. Final point thought this package was $600 not $400? On my phone so might be reading it wrong?

[ripple11]

Think you've been way too harsh here Alex, 50/50 with makeup is the same deal monda sold, Guy sold, and most confusingly it's the same deal you were on for live tournaments with me and Keith. Granted there's some extra risk here seeing as it ends after 4 days, but he'll probably play more tournaments in those 4 days than you could manage in a whole year playing live.

@milligan, I don't think he's been vague about who he is, although the information isn't all in this thread his 1st thread had everything included.

Since this thread is just $400 fire and forget and doesn't include any coaching, I'll take it all at 60/40, although since you're trying to build relationships I'll share it with anyone that wants to come on board.

I'm still happy to take 25% at 60/40.

I know Matt from his dealing days and I owe him a favour or two

[jackinbeat]

If they do 50/50s on 2+2, why don't you sell on there then?

Also, why would an investor be happy with 60/40 split, then 50/50 split for top 5 finish where the money is?!

I did. had a staking deal for 4 months, was not happy with the coaching or time it took to reload, so on advice left. I also sold a Micro Million package there, but had issues with being sent money from paypal, and another 2plus2 backer confirming, but never sending the funds, leaving me shot.  Pokerfan invested in that and i showed a profit again, although it was a very small profit.

People on blonde are more real if that makes sense, most people I know who they are, or someone who knows them, i respect the advice I've been given here, and hopefully I can show I've taken that on board.

As for the 60/40 with 50/50 top 5 finishes, I'm only going from other packages/advice from other players as to what I am worth, and ways to give a fair return to all should I hit a top5 finish.

So I'd prefer not to sell on 2plus2, already had a bad experience, and dealing with USA/Canada has so far just been a extra hassle with money transfers and the time difference.

[skolsuper]

Keys, fair enough if he has given all the info in another thread but there isn't much present in this one, Plus didn't see any links to the other? Surely mentioning makeup is redundant as this isnt the case here? Unless we are classing after stake back as the same as makeup which I personally don't. Final point thought this package was $600 not $400? On my phone so might be reading it wrong?

My bad, I read it wrong it is $600. Stakeback is the same as makeup just not persistent, it gets written off at the end of the stake, which does make it riskier I suppose but then also the stake ending means it's less of a commitment. I think it's a decent middle ground between a long term makeup deal and selling without makeup at 1.x

[cambridgealex]

Didn't know it was with makeup, it looked like just a package of tournaments

[jackinbeat]

Think you've been way too harsh here Alex, 50/50 with makeup is the same deal monda sold, Guy sold, and most confusingly it's the same deal you were on for live tournaments with me and Keith. Granted there's some extra risk here seeing as it ends after 4 days, but he'll probably play more tournaments in those 4 days than you could manage in a whole year playing live.

@milligan, I don't think he's been vague about who he is, although the information isn't all in this thread his 1st thread had everything included.

Since this thread is just $400 fire and forget and doesn't include any coaching, I'll take it all at 60/40, although since you're trying to build relationships I'll share it with anyone that wants to come on board.

Thanks again, Ripple has asked for 25% and as I know his game from some of the early Superstack/888 tournaments I would like to give him first refusal on 25%, and as Alex's involvement in this thread has taught me a lot about staking, and been constructive, would like to offer some if he wants it.

I will also give any backers here first refusal on future packages, and if I make a decent profit here will continue to play on the same deal until end of Sept/Oct when I'm currently discussing starting a new long term deal.

So as it stands I accept this offer, and will start on Thursday, If Alex and Ripple can let me know before tomorrow that would be ideal, i'll PM you before then.

I will add the main reasons to ask for a stake are i want to continue to build my reputation, and I want people with a vested interest to share the best info with me, whether that be through straight up coaching, or occasional Tournaments reviews that give me areas to work on, I 'll be happy just to know I'm getting the best info to improve my game.

[jackinbeat]

Keys, fair enough if he has given all the info in another thread but there isn't much present in this one, Plus didn't see any links to the other? Surely mentioning makeup is redundant as this isnt the case here? Unless we are classing after stake back as the same as makeup which I personally don't. Final point thought this package was $600 not $400? On my phone so might be reading it wrong?

My bad, I read it wrong it is $600. Stakeback is the same as makeup just not persistent, it gets written off at the end of the stake, which does make it riskier I suppose but then also the stake ending means it's less of a commitment. I think it's a decent middle ground between a long term makeup deal and selling without makeup at 1.x

I'm happy to go with what's best/fairest, when i asked for 50/50, I see I was clearly misguided in my reasons for wanting that.

[skolsuper]

Yeah happy to give up 25 for ripple and another 25 to whoever wants it

[pleno1]

Think you've been way too harsh here Alex, 50/50 with makeup is the same deal monda sold, Guy sold,

its a 4 day package, monda/guy could/should;d grind it out if in MU, here the losses will be lost its totally different right?

[jackinbeat]

Think you've been way too harsh here Alex, 50/50 with makeup is the same deal monda sold, Guy sold, and most confusingly it's the same deal you were on for live tournaments with me and Keith. Granted there's some extra risk here seeing as it ends after 4 days, but he'll probably play more tournaments in those 4 days than you could manage in a whole year playing live.

@milligan, I don't think he's been vague about who he is, although the information isn't all in this thread his 1st thread had everything included.

Since this thread is just $400 fire and forget and doesn't include any coaching, I'll take it all at 60/40, although since you're trying to build relationships I'll share it with anyone that wants to come on board.

I'm still happy to take 25% at 60/40.

I know Matt from his dealing days and I owe him a favour or two

Thanks Nick,

25% booked at 60/40, with James taking the rest if that's still on the table with the stakeback/make up?. As James said I'm happy to involve others, if that gets me some tournament reviews/coaching.

For clarity, so far I have the following reserved.

25% ripple
50% skolsuper
25% available

I'm out most of the day, picking up my fixed laptop, so will reply to any further posts post here later. Thanks again for every ones input, It's been a good learning experience.

[MC]

If you play through a VPN they will find you and they will shut you down and when they do that they will confiscate all the money.

This.