poker news
blondepedia
card room
tournament schedule
uk results
galleries
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
April 27, 2024, 02:06:09 AM
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
Search:
Advanced search
Order through Amazon and help blonde Poker
2272597
Posts in
66755
Topics by
16946
Members
Latest Member:
KobeTaylor
blonde poker forum
Poker Forums
The Rail
Asking to see a players hand, is it bad form??
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
« previous
next »
Pages:
1
2
3
[
4
]
5
6
Author
Topic: Asking to see a players hand, is it bad form?? (Read 12077 times)
rfgqqabc
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 5483
Re: Asking to see a players hand, is it bad form??
«
Reply #45 on:
August 05, 2012, 10:55:07 PM »
Quote from: SuuPRlim on August 05, 2012, 10:26:52 PM
if someone wants to see my hand then abso fine I'll just show them it cos 99% of the time if someone is asking then they aren't going to be advanced enough to properly process the information they'll get.
If anything me knowing that they have this info and having a pretty good idea they'll mis-use it is more of a disadvantage to them than an advantage so if they wanna do that to themselves they are more than welcome.
I've had this happen to me 5/6 times in the past. It has been done by;
1/2 Former 1k NL grinder, who whilst not A+ in my opinion, is obviously pretty dam good and has a significant advantage asking to see my hands when i will never see his. He even did this after I had said what i had before i called his all in.
3/4/5; Random retard asking to see, tilting his nuts off
6; Guy who runs regular 2/5 5/10 gbp Home Games in Essex, complete fish imo, but other friends of mine rated him, so probably gained something.
7; All in pre with a mate, when action went, raise/flat/ i flat 66/ flat/ best mate 3bs/ OR fold/ fold/ I jam/ he snaps with Q2s and fish asks to see our hands. Never felt so sketchy in my life, but how the hell do i explain that I know that he knows that i know that this guy was folding to the 3b 100% of the time. Just brutal.
In general it is the most misapplied rule in every casino. I kicked up enough of a fuss to have it used 5x more sparingly, although regulars still spout off about using it for info, which is super tilting.
edit: happened like 5/6 times @ showdown in HU pot and once all in pre in situation 7.
Logged
[21:05:17] Andrew W: you wasted a non spelling mistakepost?
[21:11:08] Patrick Leonard: oll
Junior Senior
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 4628
Re: Asking to see a players hand, is it bad form??
«
Reply #46 on:
August 05, 2012, 11:39:14 PM »
So annoying when you call a river bet, opponent mucks so you dont get to see but you have to show your hand to claim the pot?,!
Surely if they muck then you should be able to too. Yes i know the collusion arguments and chip passing possibilities etc. but meh whatever.
Logged
Cf
Global Moderator
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 8089
Re: Asking to see a players hand, is it bad form??
«
Reply #47 on:
August 05, 2012, 11:47:05 PM »
If I get called then I'll show.
If I call then I wait for opp to show/fold. No showing until their hand is confirmed mucked/dead/shown.
If I show and have a winner I'll never ask to see opponents cards.
Simple.
Logged
Blue text
jgcblack
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 3445
C'est la vie
Re: Asking to see a players hand, is it bad form??
«
Reply #48 on:
August 06, 2012, 03:14:39 AM »
Quote from: Cf on August 05, 2012, 11:47:05 PM
If I get called then I'll show.
If I call then I wait for opp to show/fold. No showing until their hand is confirmed mucked/dead/shown.
If I show and have a winner I'll never ask to see opponents cards.
Simple.
Whenever I've done this, I get told things like....
"but I told you I had A high, why did you slowroll me with your 2nd pair?"
and
"you what mate? I've told you what I've got just show your hand first......."
Then im made out to be a bad guy for waiting to let them do whatever they want with their hand, I've even said "its up to you, muck or show, I don't mind..."
And they think im playing mind games.
Logged
http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=56559.0
Lets see some flops..
smashedagain
moderator of moderators
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 12522
if you are gonna kiss arse you have to do it right
Re: Asking to see a players hand, is it bad form??
«
Reply #49 on:
August 06, 2012, 03:37:48 AM »
Quote from: jgcblack on August 06, 2012, 03:14:39 AM
Quote from: Cf on August 05, 2012, 11:47:05 PM
If I get called then I'll show.
If I call then I wait for opp to show/fold. No showing until their hand is confirmed mucked/dead/shown.
If I show and have a winner I'll never ask to see opponents cards.
Simple.
Whenever I've done this, I get told things like....
"but I told you I had A high, why did you slowroll me with your 2nd pair?"
and
"you what mate? I've told you what I've got just show your hand first......."
Then im made out to be a bad guy for waiting to let them do whatever they want with their hand, I've even said "its up to you, muck or show, I don't mind..."
And they think im playing mind games.
Even at stupid o'clock you still make me smile
Logged
[ ] ept title
[ ] wpt title
[ ] wsop braclet
[X] mickey mouse hoodies
LonOhRay
Sr. Member
Offline
Posts: 489
Re: Asking to see a players hand, is it bad form??
«
Reply #50 on:
August 06, 2012, 03:57:41 AM »
In the bad form camp
How about calling all ins on rivers with effective nuts?
I 100% insta-table my hand after calling
Logged
skolsuper
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 1510
Re: Asking to see a players hand, is it bad form??
«
Reply #51 on:
August 06, 2012, 10:05:49 AM »
Quote from: Cf on August 05, 2012, 11:47:05 PM
If I get called then I'll show.
If I call then I wait for opp to show/fold. No showing until their hand is confirmed mucked/dead/shown.
If I show and have a winner I'll never ask to see opponents cards.
Simple.
Everyone should act like this.
Logged
SuuPRlim
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 10536
Re: Asking to see a players hand, is it bad form??
«
Reply #52 on:
August 06, 2012, 01:23:02 PM »
Quote from: skolsuper on August 06, 2012, 10:05:49 AM
Quote from: Cf on August 05, 2012, 11:47:05 PM
If I get called then I'll show.
If I call then I wait for opp to show/fold. No showing until their hand is confirmed mucked/dead/shown.
If I show and have a winner I'll never ask to see opponents cards.
Simple.
Everyone should act like this.
+1
Logged
http://lildaveslife.blogspot.com/
www.thefirmpoker.com
TL900
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 2448
Re: Asking to see a players hand, is it bad form??
«
Reply #53 on:
August 06, 2012, 03:34:00 PM »
tilts me pretty hard when people ask to see my hand, especially when its a guy who probably won't even use that information profitably in any way against me. Its just rude imo
Logged
@MtSpewmore
Quote from: jgcblack
I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
smashedagain
moderator of moderators
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 12522
if you are gonna kiss arse you have to do it right
Re: Asking to see a players hand, is it bad form??
«
Reply #54 on:
August 06, 2012, 03:58:29 PM »
Quote from: TL900 on August 06, 2012, 03:34:00 PM
tilts me pretty hard when people ask to see my hand, especially when its a guy who probably won't even use that information profitably in any way against me. Its just rude imo
Did I ask to see your hand before. But definatly all of the above will have been correct.
Logged
[ ] ept title
[ ] wpt title
[ ] wsop braclet
[X] mickey mouse hoodies
SuuPRlim
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 10536
Re: Asking to see a players hand, is it bad form??
«
Reply #55 on:
August 06, 2012, 04:25:43 PM »
Quote from: TL900 on August 06, 2012, 03:34:00 PM
tilts me pretty hard when people ask to see my hand, especially when its a guy who probably won't even use that information profitably in any way against me. Its just rude imo
Just snap show them and remember to level them next time.
Logged
http://lildaveslife.blogspot.com/
www.thefirmpoker.com
TL900
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 2448
Re: Asking to see a players hand, is it bad form??
«
Reply #56 on:
August 06, 2012, 04:39:45 PM »
Quote from: smashedagain on August 06, 2012, 03:58:29 PM
Quote from: TL900 on August 06, 2012, 03:34:00 PM
tilts me pretty hard when people ask to see my hand, especially when its a guy who probably won't even use that information profitably in any way against me. Its just rude imo
Did I ask to see your hand before. But definatly all of the above will have been correct.
I don't remember it if you did sir.
Also, the most annoying thing is when you call otr and people show you a winning hand and you say 'that's good' then they ask to see your losing hand and what you called with. Could rant all day about this sorta stuff. One of my pet peeves in poker
Logged
@MtSpewmore
Quote from: jgcblack
I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
david3103
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 6104
Re: Asking to see a players hand, is it bad form??
«
Reply #57 on:
August 06, 2012, 05:01:23 PM »
Quote from: rfgqqabc on August 05, 2012, 10:55:07 PM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on August 05, 2012, 10:26:52 PM
if someone wants to see my hand then abso fine I'll just show them it cos 99% of the time if someone is asking then they aren't going to be advanced enough to properly process the information they'll get.
If anything me knowing that they have this info and having a pretty good idea they'll mis-use it is more of a disadvantage to them than an advantage so if they wanna do that to themselves they are more than welcome.
I've had this happen to me 5/6 times in the past. It has been done by;
1/2 Former 1k NL grinder, who whilst not A+ in my opinion, is obviously pretty dam good and has a significant advantage asking to see my hands when i will never see his. He even did this after I had said what i had before i called his all in.
3/4/5; Random retard asking to see, tilting his nuts off
6; Guy who runs regular 2/5 5/10 gbp Home Games in Essex, complete fish imo, but other friends of mine rated him, so probably gained something.
7; All in pre with a mate, when action went, raise/flat/ i flat 66/ flat/ best mate 3bs/ OR fold/ fold/ I jam/ he snaps with Q2s and fish asks to see our hands. Never felt so sketchy in my life, but how the hell do i explain that I know that he knows that i know that this guy was folding to the 3b 100% of the time. Just brutal.
In general it is the most misapplied rule in every casino. I kicked up enough of a fuss to have it used 5x more sparingly, although regulars still spout off about using it for info, which is super tilting.
edit: happened like 5/6 times @ showdown in HU pot and once all in pre in situation 7.
I think all hands should be tabled when you're all in whether it's cash or tournament...
;-)
Logged
It's more about the winning than the winnings
5 November 2012 - Kinboshi says "Best post ever on blonde thumbs up"
cambridgealex
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 14876
#lovethegame
Re: Asking to see a players hand, is it bad form??
«
Reply #58 on:
August 06, 2012, 05:06:55 PM »
Quote from: TL900 on August 06, 2012, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: smashedagain on August 06, 2012, 03:58:29 PM
Quote from: TL900 on August 06, 2012, 03:34:00 PM
tilts me pretty hard when people ask to see my hand, especially when its a guy who probably won't even use that information profitably in any way against me. Its just rude imo
Did I ask to see your hand before. But definatly all of the above will have been correct.
I don't remember it if you did sir.
Also, the most annoying thing is when you call otr and people show you a winning hand and you say 'that's good' then they ask to see your losing hand and what you called with. Could rant all day about this sorta stuff. One of my pet peeves in poker
Oh god that's the worst.
Logged
Poker goals:
[ ] 7 figure score
[X] 8 figure score
shedboymuff
Jr. Member
Offline
Posts: 69
Re: Asking to see a players hand, is it bad form??
«
Reply #59 on:
August 06, 2012, 05:12:24 PM »
happened to me on Fri night was fuking raging..
Logged
@shedboymuff
Pages:
1
2
3
[
4
]
5
6
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
Poker Forums
-----------------------------
=> The Rail
===> past blonde Bashes
===> Best of blonde
=> Diaries and Blogs
=> Live Tournament Updates
=> Live poker
===> Live Tournament Staking
=> Internet Poker
===> Online Tournament Staking
=> Poker Hand Analysis
===> Learning Centre
-----------------------------
Community Forums
-----------------------------
=> The Lounge
=> Betting Tips and Sport Discussion
Loading...