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« on: January 16, 2006, 01:30:21 AM »

This was a hand from today's £30 freezout tournmanent at the Gala, Notts.

65 runners, about 7 hands played. I know nothing about my opponent. Never seen or played against him before.

10 players per table. The standard on my table is pretty poor.

Blinds are 50 and 100. 6k starting stack.

Assuming seat 1 is the small blind:

Seats 4, 6, 7, and 8 call for 100.

I'm sitting in seat 9 and look down to see  . I make it 800 to play.

Folds round to Mateyboy in seat 4 who reraises to 2200.

Folded back round me. I flat call the 1400.

Flop comes  two hearts

He bets 2000.

I have 3400 left. He has slightly more chips than me and would eliminate me from the competition.

What should I do?
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2006, 01:42:18 AM »

All in baby!!!
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2006, 01:46:34 AM »

All-in everytime. Though I'd have shoved it all in preflop.
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2006, 01:48:24 AM »

What do you reckon he has?
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2006, 02:25:41 AM »

Would he limp from 2nd position and then reraise with TT, JJ, QQ, AK? Wouldn't he just raise in the first place?
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2006, 02:28:52 AM »

he is a blondite and had 74o
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2006, 02:30:30 AM »

I didn't read your original post properly.  >:? So I put him on either KK or AA or maybe QQ.
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2006, 02:39:51 AM »

Yep all in. If he aces then so be it. Yet it as likely for him to have queens. Then there are number of overpairs getting slightly less likely from jj-88 or maybe he has ak and is bluffing. If he has a set or aces c'est la vie, but you are ahead of too many hands here and there is going to be a final pot (he is committed here for the final 1400 on top) of somewhere around 12k giving you about 3 to 1 on the all in.

You just can't pass IMO. I can feel a nasty story coming here.
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2006, 02:43:40 AM »

I think you should've folded preflop. His play stinks of AA. However, who folds KK preflop...
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2006, 02:54:16 AM »

I assume you didnt put him on AA in the first place as you called his preflop raise. He is unlikley to reraise preflop with 22,44,77 tho u never know. It reeks of AA but you must go with your first decision and put i tin.
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2006, 03:21:38 AM »

Snoopy if you pass these hands you are going to be wrong more often than not!!!

I push him in before the flop, i understand your smooth call for no ace... and well no ace came!

If he has aces then so be it! You can't play scared...
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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2006, 12:47:03 PM »

On the 7th hand of a freezout with the blinds at 50/100, I just can't see anyone limp-raising with anything but AK, KK, or AA.

I thought that if I saw the flop I would find out if he had AK, and perhaps get a better read on him if he bet.

Would anyone have folded preflop?
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2006, 01:42:06 PM »

There's always the chance that he didn't have the intention of raising when he limped preflop but saw lots of limpers behind him and then a large raise fom late position and thought "if I raise here I can take this and the pot is quite large now".

I'd have been all in preflop - I find in this comp you can't really sit around too much and wait for chips because the blinds start going up quite quickly.
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2006, 02:01:52 PM »

If he was a regular then the limp then re-raise would shout Aces. However, most of the players don't have the experience of the Pot-Limit games to be making these sort of plays.

You gotta call here, I think 10 10 is the most reasonable hand here. He limps hoping to catch a set against a lot of players, therefore getting high implied odds. You raise shuts that out for him so he decides to put the pressure on you with you pocket pair.
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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2006, 02:05:25 PM »

I think you guys are overestimating the intelligence of some of these players.

Would he really make a play like this without one of the top 3 premium hands?

When he reaches the flop, half his stack has disappeared. Even a top class player wouldn't take this risk.
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