NFL 2012/13 General Discussion and Betting Thread

[kukushkin88]

I hope this works, although I'm starting to question the Defence if they failed during the entire week!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000079856/article/michael-vick-carries-football-all-week-to-fight-fumbles?module=HP11_headline_stack

Michael Vick carries football all week to fight fumbles

    By Dan Hanzus
    Around the League Writer
    Published: Oct. 12, 2012 at 09:02 p.m.
    Updated: Oct. 12, 2012 at 09:51 p.m.

The issue of ball security has haunted Michael Vick this season. He's taking extreme measures in an attempt to fix the problem.

According to NFL.com and NFL Network's Aditi Kinkhabawala, Vick carried a football with him all week at Philadelphia Eagles facilities, tucking it under his arm at breakfast, in meetings, anywhere a teammate could attempt to knock it loose.

Did anyone force a fumble in the cafeteria or elsewhere?

"They tried," he said.

Vick has eight fumbles -- five of them lost -- in five games. Ball security can be as mental as it is physical, and Vick certainly seems to be fighting it right now.

"Not to put too much emphasis on it, but to continuously remind myself that I have to take care of the football," Vick said. "You want to go out there and make it happen."

Carrying a football everywhere might sound like something a junior-varsity quarterback would do in the hallways, but give Vick points for effort.

Follow Dan Hanzus on Twitter @danhanzus.

Tom Coughlin used to make his RB´s do this, i remember it not going down too well.

Do you think the Eagles will cover the spread tomorrow?

[Sheriff Fatman]

-3.5 is an ugly number anyway and it's one I'll be leaving alone.

I think they've covered once all season, and that was in the loss to the Steelers.

Too much uncertainty with regard to both teams.  Eagles need to stop turning the ball over, Lions need to start firing on offense and defence and are performing much below their talent level.  Hard to tell when either will change.

[Sheriff Fatman]

 

Nothing further!

[TightEnd]

Join the flipping club.

Two frustrating teams

[Sheriff Fatman]

Join the flipping club.

Two frustrated blondes!

FYP

[The Camel]

Jay Touchy Feely makes from 61 yards to tie the game, then misses from 38 yards to win it.

Pretty amazing stuff.

[action man]

the clown got way too excited now were a million to make post season

[Royal Flush]

Loving the bean i punted on GB midweek at 19's

[Tal]

I love the randomness of this season. Cards look like a decent side and then lose to the Rams and the Bills in successive weeks.

What do people who aren't Bills fans and actually know what they're on about (not that the two are mutually exclusive of course!) think of Fitzpatrick? Bills have a better OL than I've seen in the past few years and, although it's far from great, there are some options for him in pass and rush. He seems to throw INTs most weeks and often more than one against better sides.

Should we be looking to change the QB or building better protection around him?

[LeKnave]

Loving the bean i punted on GB midweek at 19's

take ur aftertiming elsewhere met

[action man]

Loving the bean i punted on GB midweek at 19's

take ur aftertiming elsewhere met

+1

[The Camel]

I love the randomness of this season. Cards look like a decent side and then lose to the Rams and the Bills in successive weeks.

What do people who aren't Bills fans and actually know what they're on about (not that the two are mutually exclusive of course!) think of Fitzpatrick? Bills have a better OL than I've seen in the past few years and, although it's far from great, there are some options for him in pass and rush. He seems to throw INTs most weeks and often more than one against better sides.

Should we be looking to change the QB or building better protection around him?

I think when he's got time to throw, he's a top 10 qb.

[Marky147]

Wonder if Rivers will get home in one piece tonight #wpsir

[bobby1]

One thing that struck me watching the AFC teams play this weekend is there doesn't seem to be a good team amongst them, Houston are 5-1 but in a soft Div and just got hammered by the only NFC team they have played. Baltimore have won 4 games against other AFC teams and no other team has a winning record in the AFC.

It probably knocks the NFC's best record, Atlanta's 6-0 record too as 4 of those wins have come against the AFC West and they haven't beaten a team with a winning record. Denver have had a v tough schedule so far so they might be under rated, compare the teams played in their 3-3 record with San D 3-3 and it tells it's own story. Pats D looks a mess at times too.

h2h in AFC v NFC matches so far this season reads 9-19 and only four NFC teams have a losing record at the moment and three of those, Dallas, Detroit and  New Orleans are almost certainly better teams than the majority of the AFC.

Will be interesting to see if that trend continues for punting purposes.

[The Camel]

If there is an INT in the end zone and the defender comes out of the end zone with the ball, then trying to avoid a tackle runs back into the end zone where he is tackled... is this a safety?