Darts Betting and discussion

[SuuPRlim]

Terrific game, Price didn't play badly either he just started slowly and gave Asp a little too much of a head start . he started throwing the sink at him and he responds with some top drawer clutch darts, the 121 bang under it on the bull and the 239 in 5 darts with Price waiting is just pure class. 

2019 looks to be shaping up rosy for those two, Asp world #22 whatever happens in the final. He's no gimme for in that final either vs either a Rob Cross who struggles for consistency on these multi-game days or a Micheal Smith with a whole in his leg.

[vegaslover]

The bed in the triple 20 looks like it has come straight from the pub, lots of darts looked loose even when they didn't bounce out.
Fancy aspinall in the final, some bang average darts in the games tonight

[Juperjiper]

85 average vs 84 average at 10-5
Aspinalls first big tv final, what’s cross excuse

[buzzharvey22]

It may not have been the highest standard of darts ever seen but what a cracking tournament. So good to see the new breed coming through.

[Bazzaboy]

When the tournament cuts up and there no MVG or Anderson going deep then the final can be a bit of a damp squib, especially in formats where they have multiple games on finals day. These guys just aren’t used to playing with that intensity. Cross admitted he had nothing left for the final.

[Bazzaboy]

Asp up to a few quid shy of £300k in career earnings with over £200k coming in the past 3 months. Making the top 16 only 14 months after winning back his tour card is some going as well. He would have been a million to do that when he was 2-0 down v Price in the first round at the Worlds. With no money to defend for the rest of the year and guaranteed first round prize money from all the majors an average year should have him pretty much in the top 10 by the end of the year. Great shot at a PL spot and bound to get World Series invites too.

[SuuPRlim]

When the tournament cuts up and there no MVG or Anderson going deep then the final can be a bit of a damp squib, especially in formats where they have multiple games on finals day. These guys just aren’t used to playing with that intensity. Cross admitted he had nothing left for the final.

Yep, even Anderson (and even more so with his back) has said the long multi game days take their toll on him, MVG is an animal and deals with this so much better than anyone else and hence why he's been able to dominate so much, you could tell Cross just totally out of gas from back to back BO21 games, hence why he hit 8 180s and only averaged 84, he played well this weekend and should be pretty happy overall i think.

Would be much better for these tournaments if the finals weren't played same day as the 1/4s and semis but cant really see the alternative, i thought the tournament was amazing - not blistering averages but so many really entertaining games.

[arbboy]

As if Smith doesn't have enough problems at the minute with his injury and his slow start to the prem league he has to face Asp in his 'soft' week in the PL a week on Thurs.

UK open prize money is very top heavy and relatively poorly paid for the players given the demands of the best of 19/21 3 times in a day compared to other weekend events.   1/4 finals get £12500 and semis £20000.  40-100k final/winner.

Nearly half the 159 runner field didn't earn a penny for turning up to play.   It's a pretty poor event for the vast majority of players in the field given the size of the field/workload over the weekend and being based in Butlins in the middle of nowhere for the weekend miles from where the vast majority of players are based.  

The event is designed to sell holidays at Butlins (have you seen the price of going for the weekend it isn't cheap) and give the up and coming boys a chance to play a tv event (albeit most of them lose money doing so after expenses because they don't make a penny until the 3rd round and then they only get a grand).  The format is never going to change now there are 160 runners in it.  Hearn has maxed out the beer sales on the Friday sessions now as well with the extended format.  The five thousand punters who turn up every year for it love it and its built for tv/holiday sales perfectly.  

[arbboy]

As Camel has said elsewhere though being 16 is the death trap spot (Asp should jump out of that spot though pretty soon with no money to defend) facing mvg in the last 16.   However if you take the current top 16 of the OOM the top half of a draw now would look like this

MVG -1
Ando - 4
Gurney - 5
Mensur - 8
Wade - 9
White - 12
Webster - 13
Asp -16
Jackpot -17

Bottom half would be

Cross - 2
Snake - 3
Smith - 6
Price - 7
Whitlock -10
Chis - 11
Clayton - 14
Cullen -15

Smith and Price will be quite happy with their current rankings in the much softer half of any major draw and won't be in any rush to get to 5 in the world.

https://www.pdc.tv/order-of-merit/pdc-order-merit

Updated OOM.  Barney out of the top 32 now. 

[Bazzaboy]

Calling it a death trap spot a gross overstatement to be fair given it affects two ranking tournaments 6 months apart. It’s long odds against that anyone  lands in 16th spot for two consecutive tournaments (although Jackpot ran bad as per last year and ended up 16 for Matchplay and then Worlds). Given how fluid the rankings are it’s not really an issue. Asp long odds against to be in 16th spot by the time the Matchplay comes around.

[arbboy]

Calling it a death trap spot a gross overstatement to be fair given it affects two ranking tournaments 6 months apart. It’s long odds against that anyone  lands in 16th spot for two consecutive tournaments (although Jackpot ran bad as per last year and ended up 16 for Matchplay and then Worlds). Given how fluid the rankings are it’s not really an issue. Asp long odds against to be in 16th spot by the time the Matchplay comes around.

16 or 17 is the same effectively draw wise.  I appreciate your point at this time of the year a lot of pro tour events have to take place.  It's £30k from 17th to 18th though (Bunting) which is a fair drop off.  Asp should only go one way realistically before the match play.

[Bazzaboy]

Mickey Mansell fined £1k for not playing to the best of his ability at the Worlds. I don’t quite know what to make of that to be honest. He was obviously hopeless averaging 74 but there have been many hopeless performances over the years gone unpunished. I don’t recall any significant line movement on the match either which would suggest something a bit more sinister. Strange one.

[arbboy]

Mickey Mansell fined £1k for not playing to the best of his ability at the Worlds. I don’t quite know what to make of that to be honest. He was obviously hopeless averaging 74 but there have been many hopeless performances over the years gone unpunished. I don’t recall any significant line movement on the match either which would suggest something a bit more sinister. Strange one.

Makes no sense at all.  The one event you wouldn't throw it in would be the world's with his ranking as a few wins can fire him right into the big time.

[horseplayer]

Makes even less sense when his opponent averaged 75!

The general consensus seems to be the regulators issue these strange punishments at times.

[horseplayer]

Mardle says on twitter he has been told it costs 3k to appeal!

No wonder Mansell wont