Darts Betting and discussion

[Bazzaboy]

Seriously good performances from Gurney and Cross.

Both semis should be fun if Kyle turns up.

[SuuPRlim]

Bwin has a market up

Jackpot 3/10 looks huge. No way he doesn’t get a wild card. Barney 1/10 also. MVG, Snakebite and Anderson look as good a 1/100 shots as you will find.

Wow some very strange things here.

MVG Garry and Wright @ 1.01 is literally buying money, you're basically just betting that they don't die or quit darts (maybe some freak family thing?)

I think gurney and 1.03 is just as big a print. Only a big win from mensur will stop him being top 4 and automatically in after the worlds and the most likely person to pip him is Taylor who won't be counted anyway, even if he doesn't make world top 4 i think it's 0% he doesn't get offered it.
Interesting that they make Mensur 1.03 too when he refused it last last year? I wouldn't mind a poke at 25/1 that he doesn't make the lineup.

Chizzy at 1.4? Seems impossible for him not to be invited really, he's one of the most entertaining and holding his world ranking well, Saying Chizzy is 1.4 and Whitlock is 1.15 seems totoally backward to me.

Barney always gets the Sky Wildcard so he's pretty close to 1.01 too, 1.1 is crazy print

I think Rob cross is significantly shorter than 1.5 at this point. Lewis doesn't merit a spot but there isn't exactly a queue of people to replace him - Hearn is never giving Ian White, Benito van de Pas, Mervyn King, Darren Webster etc a spot of Adrian Lewis. Jelle doesn't really deserve it and there's no really shortage of dutchmen to support with MVG and RVB. 3/10 Lewis has to be a massive spot.

Corey Cadby at 9/4 is a lay till the cows come home unless he wins the grand slam.

Huybrechts at 5/2 might be a good one too because of the Belguim leg...

I'd make it

Mvg
Garry
Wright
Gurney

Barney
Chizzy
Lewis
Mansur

Cross / Anderson / Whitlock / Huybrechts

Cross is becoming more and more of a lock, think you've gotta give one of the Aussies a nod here, small chance Hearn decides that Lewis is out after a terrible year and throws Kim in for the Belguim fans, but giving Kim the nod over either of the Aussies might not look great. Could see Cross take Lewis' spot and both Aussie's in but I think Bary Hearn will likely feel one Aussie is the same as them both here and that Lewis' big name appeal and likelihood to bang a 9-darter in etc, along with 2x WC pedigree is better.

Phil Taylor 7/1 - not impossible

[Bazzaboy]

Angry Kim has had an average year and already had two goes at it and been poor both times. Would be ridic if he got another shot. Kyle making a late run for a spot. Think Cross has to be in now, will be a lock if he beats Gurney later.

Cadby needs to retain the World Youth title or he won’t be at the worlds as he bombed in the Oceanic Masters.

[SuuPRlim]

Would be absurd if Cadby got in before he even had a pro tour card. Kind of makes a mockery of it all, guys like Benito, White, King, Beaton all deserve one 50x more and they are pretty much 0%.

Think it would be very obvious to put Kim in, Barry wants players to at least think that playing well and doing well on TV will get you a go not just being the right nationality!

[Bazzaboy]

9 darter from Kyle. Giving MVG a real test here.

[SuuPRlim]

Oh Kyle

Gotta hit that double.

[Bazzaboy]

Ouch. Chance of a major title and a PL place in his hands there. Great performance from him though.

GSOD spot as well.

[Bazzaboy]

Cross about to take Jackpot’s GSOD place

[SuuPRlim]

Thats a massive swing for Lewis, with another £200k to defend between now and the worlds he only has the players and the WC to do it. The players is so gruelling and short format, don't fancy his chances there on this years form.

With so many good players about, and his form being so poor, you don't really fancy him at the WC either, although it's his best format and on a stage he absolutely loves, if he's going to pull it out anywhere it'll be there. I think realistically he needs to semi final the worlds to hold on to his top 10 order of merit spot.

Cross made a great effort there, he had 2 small chances to push away around the 4-5 5-5 mark and didn't take it, MVG got his nose in front and averaged 109, knows how to close these things out as well as anyone, so RC didn't have a chance from that point. 1/2 to get a PL spot looks like a spot to take all £11.87 bwin will likely lay you!

[The Camel]

Bwin has a market up

Jackpot 3/10 looks huge. No way he doesn’t get a wild card. Barney 1/10 also. MVG, Snakebite and Anderson look as good a 1/100 shots as you will find.

Wow some very strange things here.

MVG Garry and Wright @ 1.01 is literally buying money, you're basically just betting that they don't die or quit darts (maybe some freak family thing?)

I think gurney and 1.03 is just as big a print. Only a big win from mensur will stop him being top 4 and automatically in after the worlds and the most likely person to pip him is Taylor who won't be counted anyway, even if he doesn't make world top 4 i think it's 0% he doesn't get offered it.
Interesting that they make Mensur 1.03 too when he refused it last last year? I wouldn't mind a poke at 25/1 that he doesn't make the lineup.

Chizzy at 1.4? Seems impossible for him not to be invited really, he's one of the most entertaining and holding his world ranking well, Saying Chizzy is 1.4 and Whitlock is 1.15 seems totoally backward to me.

Barney always gets the Sky Wildcard so he's pretty close to 1.01 too, 1.1 is crazy print

I think Rob cross is significantly shorter than 1.5 at this point. Lewis doesn't merit a spot but there isn't exactly a queue of people to replace him - Hearn is never giving Ian White, Benito van de Pas, Mervyn King, Darren Webster etc a spot of Adrian Lewis. Jelle doesn't really deserve it and there's no really shortage of dutchmen to support with MVG and RVB. 3/10 Lewis has to be a massive spot.

Corey Cadby at 9/4 is a lay till the cows come home unless he wins the grand slam.

Huybrechts at 5/2 might be a good one too because of the Belguim leg...

I'd make it

Mvg
Garry
Wright
Gurney

Barney
Chizzy
Lewis
Mansur

Cross / Anderson / Whitlock / Huybrechts

Cross is becoming more and more of a lock, think you've gotta give one of the Aussies a nod here, small chance Hearn decides that Lewis is out after a terrible year and throws Kim in for the Belguim fans, but giving Kim the nod over either of the Aussies might not look great. Could see Cross take Lewis' spot and both Aussie's in but I think Bary Hearn will likely feel one Aussie is the same as them both here and that Lewis' big name appeal and likelihood to bang a 9-darter in etc, along with 2x WC pedigree is better.

Phil Taylor 7/1 - not impossible

7/1 Taylor is massive.

Didn't he say he was giving up the tour?

The Premier League is just a glorified series of exhibitions.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if he plays. I wouldn't lay evens.

[Bazzaboy]

Thats a massive swing for Lewis, with another £200k to defend between now and the worlds he only has the players and the WC to do it. The players is so gruelling and short format, don't fancy his chances there on this years form.

With so many good players about, and his form being so poor, you don't really fancy him at the WC either, although it's his best format and on a stage he absolutely loves, if he's going to pull it out anywhere it'll be there. I think realistically he needs to semi final the worlds to hold on to his top 10 order of merit spot.

Cross made a great effort there, he had 2 small chances to push away around the 4-5 5-5 mark and didn't take it, MVG got his nose in front and averaged 109, knows how to close these things out as well as anyone, so RC didn't have a chance from that point. 1/2 to get a PL spot looks like a spot to take all £11.87 bwin will likely lay you!

I think Cross is as good as there now. He just needed a deep TV run to consolidate floor form which he has done. The fact he didn’t buckle when there will help his cause too. I really think Chizzy is under big pressure to put in a deep run somewhere or he will be out. I think Whitlock will get the nod ahead of him (not saying I agree with that but I think it will happen). That then leaves him fighting it out for the last spot with the likes of Kyle.

[SuuPRlim]

Yeah - you're absolutely right.

I guess Lewis is relying solely on a Sky pick - Sky picks last 4 years have been Taylor/Barney, Chizzy/Barney, Bunting/Barney, Anderson/Barney so if Lewis misses out on a PDC spot (which you have to imagine he will) then I reckon he'll pick his spot up through sky. So the big danger for Chizzy is that he's gonna miss out on the 4th PDC spot...

Mensur, Cross, Whitlock, Anderson looks like the best 4 on merit at the moment, seems very difficult to justify giving chizzy a spot over Kyle or Whitlock.  Chizzy not dead in the water though, he's so entertaining and his 180 hitting is amazing for crowd morale, deep run at the players or the worlds he'll probably pip one of the Aussies on reputation. Chance Mensur refuses again in which case it's kind of tough to imagine who else they could go for, or maybe Lewis wins the players or semi's the worlds and he might get a PDC spot in which case Chizzy will likely get the nod from Sky.

Then of course, sky are 100% offering Phil a spot, should he accept it (even though he said he wouldn't - tough to turn £100k down!) then both Chizzy and Lewis could be relying on a PDC spot!!!

Maybe another thing to be cautious off is the fact they could have 3 newbies in the PL (Cross, Mensur, Kyle) and might affect the standard. Really hope the PL doesn't break Cross like it did Bunting, Smith etc but I think he's a totally different animal - kinda looks tbh like he'll just thrive in there.

[Bazzaboy]

Yeah - you're absolutely right.

I guess Lewis is relying solely on a Sky pick - Sky picks last 4 years have been Taylor/Barney, Chizzy/Barney, Bunting/Barney, Anderson/Barney so if Lewis misses out on a PDC spot (which you have to imagine he will) then I reckon he'll pick his spot up through sky. So the big danger for Chizzy is that he's gonna miss out on the 4th PDC spot...

Mensur, Cross, Whitlock, Anderson looks like the best 4 on merit at the moment, seems very difficult to justify giving chizzy a spot over Kyle or Whitlock.  Chizzy not dead in the water though, he's so entertaining and his 180 hitting is amazing for crowd morale, deep run at the players or the worlds he'll probably pip one of the Aussies on reputation. Chance Mensur refuses again in which case it's kind of tough to imagine who else they could go for, or maybe Lewis wins the players or semi's the worlds and he might get a PDC spot in which case Chizzy will likely get the nod from Sky.

Then of course, sky are 100% offering Phil a spot, should he accept it (even though he said he wouldn't - tough to turn £100k down!) then both Chizzy and Lewis could be relying on a PDC spot!!!

Maybe another thing to be cautious off is the fact they could have 3 newbies in the PL (Cross, Mensur, Kyle) and might affect the standard. Really hope the PL doesn't break Cross like it did Bunting, Smith etc but I think he's a totally different animal - kinda looks tbh like he'll just thrive in there.

Yeah Jackpot gets a wildcard on reputation in the same way Anderson and Barney got them when they had barren years and dropped down the ranking.

I think Cross will be fine. Showed up really well last night in defeat. He has also beaten everyone throughout the course of the year. More likely he is the one doing the bashing up.  Kyle also showed up really well going toe to toe with MVG. Obviously fluffed his lines when it really matter but for his first major semi did very well. He seems to me to be a bit more streaky than say Cross so could struggle in the PL if his form was to dip. Doesn’t seem mentally weak like Bunting and Smith though.

[SuuPRlim]

Hope so! Love a bit of Rob Cross! Such an animal.

Think with Cross Mensur etc in it might be way more competitive this year, last year was a bit dull how Kim and Jelle were never in it, and the top 4 were all but locked by the final night, Chizzy's last minute run and PW's fucking up the final was the only highlights really.

[SuuPRlim]

Rankings shaping up ahead of the Grand Slam.

Another sick spot for Gurney ton consolidate world #4 - he's not defending a penny so gets a £15k headstart over Lewis who he'd £10k ahead of to start the event, Lewis not even in it yet so if he doesn't qualify just for turnig up Gurney is going to be nearly £30k ahead of him, he's £14k ahead of Phil in #6 who is defending £50k this week, so is going to kick off £65k ahead of Phil, only a win for Phil can see him overtake Gurney.

This leads to a good opportunity for Mensur to improve his rankings ahead of the worlds, he's not defending anything either so he's going to kick off £10k behind Lewis in #5 and jump over to £35k ahead of Phil in #6.

Chizzy has an opportunity here that he just cannot afford to pass up, he's going to start in #7 about £5k ahead of Phil he already has a £30k lead on Barney in #9 who is defending £17.5k more than him, if he wants to secure his top 10 spot, keep a good rankings for the worlds and retain his PL spot, he NEEDS a good showing here. A semi final and a good performance will probably lock him a top 6 spot and I think will get him in in PL. He fucked it up at the GP and just has to perform well here, or big problems.

The other person with a real good chance to make a move here is Whitlock. He's also not defending any money, the 6 people behind him in the rankings are not currently qualified and the two guys above him in the rankings (smith and barney) who are £1k and £12k ahead of him respectively are both defending semi-final money (£25k) he's going to start this event in good form with only £75k behind him and #5, with some very venerable people in between, and absolutely no threat from behind. Great opportunity for him to hunt a top 6 spot down.

Gerwyn Price and Rob Cross obviously in great spots as well, most players directly above them aren't yet in and defending no money - Rob Cross is incredibly only £70k off the top 16! He's in this, and he's got the best draw for the Players...I think it's doable before the worlds, what an achievement that would be!!!

People in a bit of trouble - Lewis, obviously as we discussed many times is screwed every way you look at it. Phil is kind of in bother but when you hardly play and are defending lots of money realistically it's pretty slick that he looks to have a top 10 spot locked up for the worlds - wouldn't put it past him to have a deep run here either, as saving himself for the big events seems to be working for him in his twilight year. Wade obviously, everyone above will pull further ahead and he slips further back towards to the bottom end of the top 16.

Micheal Smith has a bit of a problem, iffy form and £25k to defend here, looks like he'll be out of the top 10 for the Worlds, Barney's £10k buffer might save his top 10 spot, both really need a good run here.

Biggest danger here though is for Kim Huybrechts, he's already slipped out of the top 16 and is defending £15k here, with Gerwyn Price right behind him already in the tournament. Lucky for Kim he has a £37k buffer over #19 and £60k lead over #24....the bad news is that the guys chasing him are Cullen, Beaton, Anderson, Cross - all in great form. He needs to get himself in this tournament or put a good performance up at the players or he could have a dreadful draw at the worlds - where he's lucky he's only defending £14k between the two.

Darts is too sick right now