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« Reply #3300 on: January 16, 2019, 07:51:02 PM »

Yes its quite surprising how low the variance seems to be over a 4 day shootout in best of 9 leg games across four rapid fire events.  The best players do seem to routinely get through. Waites and Duzza would have been top 32 operators at worst for the last 5 years if they had moved over.  I was tempted to pay the £450 and turn up myself for a jolly up for the weekend.  There must be a few dozen of total chancers who have done that and just treat it as a laugh.
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« Reply #3301 on: January 16, 2019, 08:35:49 PM »

The fact that there is the Order of Merit for those that don’t get an automatic card means the cream generally gets through. A couple of deep runs is usually enough to get a card.

Sky have a market but only offering the one side. Obv no one can get on but they go 4/7 Duzza to get a card which I think is a massive price. He’s head and shoulders above the rest of the field. Williams 2/1 also decent.
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« Reply #3302 on: January 16, 2019, 08:55:50 PM »

They are both massive

Was very impressed with the bdo standard in general

Durrant should be 1/4 tops?
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« Reply #3303 on: January 16, 2019, 09:07:35 PM »

who is Jason Askew who sky quote at a pony?  Someone from their office? 
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« Reply #3304 on: January 16, 2019, 09:09:41 PM »

They are both massive

Was very impressed with the bdo standard in general

Durrant should be 1/4 tops?

I’d be a backer at 1/4. I make him a 1/6 shot.  Unless he has forgotten to play darts since the weekend he will cruise through on the bridle. Was back in work Monday morning so not like he has been out on the piss since winning. Look at how MVG eats up the Pro Tour events and the variance in ability level there is a lot shallower than at Q school. At least half of the field don’t have a prayer of getting a card.

McKinstry 3/1 and Whitehead 4/1 also big based on Lakeside form. They also have the advantage of being match sharp. Most of the others won’t have thrown a competitive dart for weeks.
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« Reply #3305 on: January 16, 2019, 09:10:43 PM »

Jason Askew
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On the way to Wigan for my first Q School. Fully focused and ready to give it my best! 👊🎯 #QSchool
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looks like he plays lower league footie

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« Reply #3306 on: January 16, 2019, 09:11:04 PM »

here he is Arb!

   Gwynedd   2   A   1   0   4   9.95   9.95
Division Two Men's B Dart Average (Top 200)
No   Player   County   D   M   P   W   F   Ave   Dave
1   Andrew Gilding   Suffolk   2   B   1   1   4   31.05   32.05
2   Ben Poulton   Suffolk   2   B   2   2   4   28.11   30.11
3   Tex Houghton   Cumbria   2   B   4   4   4   26.07   30.07
4   Eirig Rowlands   Gwynedd   2   B   2   2   4   27.37   29.37
5   Gavin Lewis   Humberside   2   B   2   2   4   27.08   29.08
6   Scott Lovett   Berkshire   2   B   2   2   4   26.34   28.34
7   Dylan Williams   Gwynedd   2   B   1   1   4   27.33   28.33
8   Jamie Landon   Staffordshire   2   B   1   1   4   27.33   28.33
9   Lee Blakey   Humberside   2   B   3   3   4   25.20   28.20
10   Andy Beardmore   Staffordshire   2   B   1   1   4   27.01   28.01
11   Stuart Limbert   Humberside   2   B   4   2   4   25.87   27.87
12   Robbie Lickiss   Humberside   2   B   4   3   4   24.85   27.85
13   Stuart Livesley   Staffordshire   2   B   3   2   4   25.74   27.74
14   Tim Embling   County Durham   2   B   2   2   4   25.45   27.45
15   Jim Swallwell   Worcestershire   2   B   1   1   4   26.37   27.37
16   Ben Davis   Staffordshire   2   B   1   1   4   26.33   27.33
17   Dean Scott   County Durham   2   B   2   2   4   25.10   27.10
18   Martin Goodin   Kent   2   B   4   3   4   24.00   27.00
19   Robert Carr   Berkshire   2   B   1   1   4   25.91   26.91
20   Gavin Payne   Suffolk   2   B   1   1   4   25.91   26.91
21   Chris Day   Gwynedd   2   B   4   3   4   23.89   26.89
22   Karl Hinks   Staffordshire   2   B   2   2   4   24.84   26.84
23   Adam Gilders   Suffolk   2   B   1   1   4   25.84   26.84
24   Sion Wright   Gwynedd   2   B   4   4   4   22.77   26.77
25   Daryn Gray   Humberside   2   B   4   3   4   23.73   26.73
26   Paul Wratten   Kent   2   B   4   4   4   22.72   26.72
27   Carl Wilson   Kent   2   B   4   3   4   23.70   26.70
28   Andrew Foster   Cumbria   2   B   2   2   4   24.70   26.70
29   Kev Johnson   Staffordshire   2   B   4   3   4   23.65   26.65
30   Eddie Mordica   County Durham   2   B   3   3   4   23.62   26.62
31   Lee Parish   Humberside   2   B   3   2   4   24.50   26.50
32   Robert Bowers   Berkshire   2   B   4   3   4   23.46   26.46
33   Dan Wilson   Gwynedd   2   B   2   2   4   24.44   26.44
34   Jamie Dunsdon   Staffordshire   2   B   4   3   4   23.40   26.40
35   Andy McNeil-Aitken   Berkshire   2   B   1   1   4   25.38   26.38
36   Benjamin Hilditch   Staffordshire   2   B   2   1   4   25.32   26.32
37   Neil Parsonage   Worcestershire   2   B   4   3   4   23.31   26.31
38   Steve Day   Kent   2   B   3   2   4   24.18   26.18
39   Nick Evans   Worcestershire   2   B   4   1   4   25.13   26.13
40   Lee Smith   Humberside   2   B   4   3   4   23.11   26.11
41   Karl Merchant   Staffordshire   2   B   3   2   4   24.11   26.11
42   Kevin Leathers   Suffolk   2   B   3   2   4   24.01   26.01
43   Trevor Watters   Cumbria   2   B   3   2   4   23.90   25.90
44   Steven Smith   Staffordshire   2   B   2   2   4   23.87   25.87
45   Dave Richards   Staffordshire   2   B   4   3   4   22.84   25.84
46   Arwyn Jones   Gwynedd   2   B   3   3   4   22.83   25.83
47   Tony Hammond   Surrey   2   B   3   2   4   23.82   25.82
48   Jason Askew   Surrey   2   B   1   0   4   25.80   25.80


think 25/1 looks small!
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« Reply #3307 on: January 16, 2019, 09:16:42 PM »

He’s the son of Diamond Dave.
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« Reply #3308 on: January 16, 2019, 09:18:19 PM »

They are both massive

Was very impressed with the bdo standard in general

Durrant should be 1/4 tops?

I’d be a backer at 1/4. I make him a 1/6 shot.  Unless he has forgotten to play darts since the weekend he will cruise through on the bridle. Was back in work Monday morning so not like he has been out on the piss since winning. Look at how MVG eats up the Pro Tour events and the variance in ability level there is a lot shallower than at Q school. At least half of the field don’t have a prayer of getting a card.

McKinstry 3/1 and Whitehead 4/1 also big based on Lakeside form. They also have the advantage of being match sharp. Most of the others won’t have thrown a competitive dart for weeks.

You have to make big scoring waites a bet at 2/1 as well then?  Only his doubles really let him down at the bdo over the week.  He could have bundles of shots at doubles against these lads. 
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« Reply #3309 on: January 16, 2019, 09:19:54 PM »

He’s the son of Diamond Dave.

I did wonder if he was!  Diamond dave askew.  What a blast from the past
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« Reply #3310 on: January 16, 2019, 09:23:22 PM »

They are both massive

Was very impressed with the bdo standard in general

Durrant should be 1/4 tops?

I’d be a backer at 1/4. I make him a 1/6 shot.  Unless he has forgotten to play darts since the weekend he will cruise through on the bridle. Was back in work Monday morning so not like he has been out on the piss since winning. Look at how MVG eats up the Pro Tour events and the variance in ability level there is a lot shallower than at Q school. At least half of the field don’t have a prayer of getting a card.

McKinstry 3/1 and Whitehead 4/1 also big based on Lakeside form. They also have the advantage of being match sharp. Most of the others won’t have thrown a competitive dart for weeks.

You have to make big scoring waites a bet at 2/1 as well then?  Only his doubles really let him down at the bdo over the week.  He could have bundles of shots at doubles against these lads. 

Yeah Waites is good too, all of the BDO boys are value with the possible exception of a McGeeney but the fact it’s not on stage is a positive for him.
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« Reply #3311 on: January 16, 2019, 09:41:17 PM »

They are both massive

Was very impressed with the bdo standard in general

Durrant should be 1/4 tops?

I’d be a backer at 1/4. I make him a 1/6 shot.  Unless he has forgotten to play darts since the weekend he will cruise through on the bridle. Was back in work Monday morning so not like he has been out on the piss since winning. Look at how MVG eats up the Pro Tour events and the variance in ability level there is a lot shallower than at Q school. At least half of the field don’t have a prayer of getting a card.

McKinstry 3/1 and Whitehead 4/1 also big based on Lakeside form. They also have the advantage of being match sharp. Most of the others won’t have thrown a competitive dart for weeks.

You have to make big scoring waites a bet at 2/1 as well then?  Only his doubles really let him down at the bdo over the week.  He could have bundles of shots at doubles against these lads.  

Yeah Waites is good too, all of the BDO boys are value with the possible exception of a McGeeney but the fact it’s not on stage is a positive for him.

The 'fitness' edge for the bdo boys going deeep last week must be massivel  With Duzza as well if he doesn't get a card there is the outside chance Bazza gifts him one after q school.  Skybet's wording is a tour card not to win one at q school so you could be weighed in two ways.   No way bazza won't want duzza there next year being first 3 time bdo back to back to back winner since Bristow.  Two ways to win.
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« Reply #3312 on: January 16, 2019, 10:20:05 PM »

There’s also no pressure on them this year with BDO changing their rules meaning that if they don’t get a card they can still play the bdO Tour and make Lakeside. That must be a huge positive mentally knowing that it’s effectively a freeroll, rather than having the pressure of having to win a card or being left in limbo and having to make do with the Challenge Tour and Euro Tour qualifiers.
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« Reply #3313 on: January 17, 2019, 11:25:03 AM »

39 average the lowest of the day so far.
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« Reply #3314 on: January 17, 2019, 12:00:24 PM »

Hills did price it up briefly after my request but I missed it

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