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[BorntoBubble]

Not really sure keep getting 2nd and 3rd in these races. (my own stuff and neil's) No winners not sure how ive not gone broke!

[horseplayer]

agreed re prices

Found it quite hard to get the prices today, first two days little issues.

Have more members come onboard today? Or maybe its just people upping stakes

[Kmac84]

This doesn't even feel real. I am in front through a combination of backing Neil's stuff and a few of my own.  Its obviously difficult to say but I feel as if I have learnt loads from reading not only these write up's but from the previous free stuff. 

But so, so unlucky there.   Keep them coming Neil. 

[BorntoBubble]

agreed re prices

Found it quite hard to get the prices today, first two days little issues.

Have more members come onboard today? Or maybe its just people upping stakes

Say 100 customers and an average of £10 a point is £10,000 enough to move these markets, surely the money si spread across multiple bookies/betfair?

Or have i heavily underestimated the amount being punted

[Kmac84]

agreed re prices

Found it quite hard to get the prices today, first two days little issues.

Have more members come onboard today? Or maybe its just people upping stakes

Say 100 customers and an average of £10 a point is £10,000 enough to move these markets, surely the money si spread across multiple bookies/betfair?

Or have i heavily underestimated the amount being punted

But it only takes a couple of ton from a flagged account to spark panic for the books and if one moves the rest generally feel compelled. 

[George2Loose]

Couldn't a shrewd bookie get an employee to sign up and adjust prices accordingly?

[arbboy]

Couldn't a shrewd bookie get an employee to sign up and adjust prices accordingly?

Bookies will be signed up to this very soon, if not already, i would have thought.  When i was at 365 years ago pretty sure they signed up to every major tipping line so they could adjust limits on selections etc before the followers could get on.  That's why this tipping service is focused only on major events where the market can absorb the info better than general day to day stuff where the markets are much weaker.

[Bad Beat]

 I don't think we want to say exactly how many people signed up but I can say it's more than 100 but not 500. It was a worry that we had about Goodwood when compared with Ascot and Cheltenham that the prices would not be around enough with the weaker markets. Today I think the problem was a little that the bigger prices happened to be with the more pathetic firms. Also when we bet in 16-runner handicaps there is so much value in the place part of the bet that you can usually bet something that you were hoping to get 10/1 about at 8/1 and you still will have a +ev bet. If you bet on the 12 runner handicaps there is not so much overlay on the place and you have to get 10/1 in that example.

 I have no idea what the average guy bets on our selections but I know that some of the punters are pretty big poker players and I have heard them talk about the large amounts they have on. If one or two of them only tuned in today for the 1st time...I also think this week some of the people who maybe played £5 a point at Ascot decided this was easy money and they would play for £10 a point.

 Hopefully tomorrow things will be easier. I am betting all selections myself but my money is spread around really carefully and while it can have an effect it doesn't cause the big price crashes that happened today.

 Most bookmakers today would not be interested in subscribing, they just want to cut everyone and seem to have no interest in the bit of the job that I used to find fascinating which was to find out who the winning guy were, see what they were doing, use that to help you set better prices and follow them in with the opposition.

 Did find this article interesting though...


http://www.sbcnews.co.uk/%3Fp%3D11123
 

[arbboy]

would love to see how firms would manage all the degens in their offices not betting each and every day. 

[doubleup]

would love to see how firms would manage all the degens in their offices not betting each and every day. 

The striking thing I take from the GC memo is that they expect firms to have ridiculously high standards in some areas but completely ignore freerolling through palps and void bets, manipulation of sps and other issues that directly affect punters.

[redarmi]

I don't think we want to say exactly how many people signed up but I can say it's more than 100 but not 500. It was a worry that we had about Goodwood when compared with Ascot and Cheltenham that the prices would not be around enough with the weaker markets. Today I think the problem was a little that the bigger prices happened to be with the more pathetic firms. Also when we bet in 16-runner handicaps there is so much value in the place part of the bet that you can usually bet something that you were hoping to get 10/1 about at 8/1 and you still will have a +ev bet. If you bet on the 12 runner handicaps there is not so much overlay on the place and you have to get 10/1 in that example.

 I have no idea what the average guy bets on our selections but I know that some of the punters are pretty big poker players and I have heard them talk about the large amounts they have on. If one or two of them only tuned in today for the 1st time...I also think this week some of the people who maybe played £5 a point at Ascot decided this was easy money and they would play for £10 a point.

 Hopefully tomorrow things will be easier. I am betting all selections myself but my money is spread around really carefully and while it can have an effect it doesn't cause the big price crashes that happened today.

 Most bookmakers today would not be interested in subscribing, they just want to cut everyone and seem to have no interest in the bit of the job that I used to find fascinating which was to find out who the winning guy were, see what they were doing, use that to help you set better prices and follow them in with the opposition.

 Did find this article interesting though...


http://www.sbcnews.co.uk/%3Fp%3D11123
 

That link is pretty funny.  The firms will never implement that because the few good traders that are still in the industry are only in it for the info....it certainly isn't the pay!!!!

[StuartHopkin]

 

[horseplayer]

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Good to have kids and be up early on a Saturday.  Even getting the 40/1 shots and the prices only available with one bookie this morning.  Mini Boom