Hand v Sam Grafton at GUKPT London

[SuuPRlim]

I dont think you're a wanker Keith, I think you're a lovely chap.

[cambridgealex]

I think too many people get massively fancy or second guess themselves when playing vs well known players. Dreenie's post highlights this. He's just a human being with two cards same as you. You happen to have the 2nd best starting hand in holdem. What do you think he can do? What is this coffin he can put you in postflop? Just play it normal.

[Dry em]

I dont like peeling the 3b fwiw as you have 4 or 5 people with position against you that might also flick it in once you call.

Funnily enough I had Kings on day 1a vs a Sammy 3b (when I'd raised EP). I had this "dilemma too" as someone very call happy had called my raise in between.

[The Camel]

I dont think you're a wanker Keith, I think you're a lovely chap.

Thankyou David.

[Patonius2000]

Played it perfectly imo

[dreenie]

I dont think you're a wanker Keith, I think you're a lovely chap.

[outragous76]

I think you should have ordered a sandwich, and then got it in pre! If he has AA - eat the sandwich, if not then you feed the bats birds with it

[Dry em]

I think you should have ordered a sandwich, and then got it in pre! If he has AA - eat the sandwich, if not then you feed the bats birds with it

Don't underestimate the time it will take you to get your sandwich at the Vic though...

[Tal]

For the tiny amount it is worth, I jam pre because you're more likely to do that with a hand that is less than KK than flatting the 5-bet.

You never ever flat with AK and then check the flop and turn behind so it seems to me Villain is getting a free chance to win the pot on the river against your pretty exposed hand.

So easy from here with hindsight and knowing your hand, tho

Make me play it over the table and watch me fold like Superman on laundry day.

[The Camel]

For the tiny amount it is worth, I jam pre because you're more likely to do that with a hand that is less than KK than flatting the 5-bet.

You never ever flat with AK and then check the flop and turn behind so it seems to me Villain is getting a free chance to win the pot on the river against your pretty exposed hand.

So easy from here with hindsight and knowing your hand, tho

Make me play it over the table and watch me fold like Superman on laundry day.

But that's the thing.

My hand isn't exposed at all.

I am calling 100% of my 4 betting hands here getting 6/1+

78s JQ KQ 22 T8 everything.

As it happens I had dem kings, but it didn't have to be that way.

[cambridgealex]

For the tiny amount it is worth, I jam pre because you're more likely to do that with a hand that is less than KK than flatting the 5-bet.

You never ever flat with AK and then check the flop and turn behind so it seems to me Villain is getting a free chance to win the pot on the river against your pretty exposed hand.

So easy from here with hindsight and knowing your hand, tho

Make me play it over the table and watch me fold like Superman on laundry day.

But that's the thing.

My hand isn't exposed at all.

I am calling 100% of my 4 betting hands here getting 6/1+

78s JQ KQ 22 T8 everything.

As it happens I had dem kings, but it didn't have to be that way.

How are you going to play those hands though in a 5bet pot vs a good player?

There's 20k in the middle when you flat the 5bet and you have 20k behind. I think the Axx runout froze the action a bit, but generally Sam isn't going to be checking down boards and making it at all easy to play hands like 78s and 22.

[DMorgan]

No love for the 6b jam?

Reps enough AK for sammy to sigh call it off with JJ/QQ/AK and I don't think we really induce sammy to do much postflop by flatting when we obv just have a big hand. You may well be peeling the 4b with a ton of stuff Keith, but i'm pretty sure that sammy will just be giving you QQ+

[Tal]

For the tiny amount it is worth, I jam pre because you're more likely to do that with a hand that is less than KK than flatting the 5-bet.

You never ever flat with AK and then check the flop and turn behind so it seems to me Villain is getting a free chance to win the pot on the river against your pretty exposed hand.

So easy from here with hindsight and knowing your hand, tho

Make me play it over the table and watch me fold like Superman on laundry day.

But that's the thing.

My hand isn't exposed at all.

I am calling 100% of my 4 betting hands here getting 6/1+

78s JQ KQ 22 T8 everything.

As it happens I had dem kings, but it didn't have to be that way.

If you open UTG, face a squeeze from BB and 4-bet, then the 3-bettor re-pops small, I think calling shows a lot of strength and not 78s.

I'm a mug of a player, bit I'd rather fold than call in this spot. If the flop comes J72, you're putting the rest of your stack (a pot sized bet) in and getting called by hand that beats you more than you want.

Am I barking up the wrong tree?

[The Camel]

No love for the 6b jam?

Reps enough AK for sammy to sigh call it off with JJ/QQ/AK and I don't think we really induce sammy to do much postflop by flatting when we obv just have a big hand. You may well be peeling the 4b with a ton of stuff Keith, but i'm pretty sure that sammy will just be giving you QQ+

That's the only advantage I've got in this coup.

I think Sam probably imagines my hand is top premium, but it really isn't.

[The Camel]

For the tiny amount it is worth, I jam pre because you're more likely to do that with a hand that is less than KK than flatting the 5-bet.

You never ever flat with AK and then check the flop and turn behind so it seems to me Villain is getting a free chance to win the pot on the river against your pretty exposed hand.

So easy from here with hindsight and knowing your hand, tho

Make me play it over the table and watch me fold like Superman on laundry day.

But that's the thing.

My hand isn't exposed at all.

I am calling 100% of my 4 betting hands here getting 6/1+

78s JQ KQ 22 T8 everything.

As it happens I had dem kings, but it didn't have to be that way.

If you open UTG, face a squeeze from BB and 4-bet, then the 3-bettor re-pops small, I think calling shows a lot of strength and not 78s.

I'm a mug of a player, bit I'd rather fold than call in this spot. If the flop comes J72, you're putting the rest of your stack (a pot sized bet) in and getting called by hand that beats you more than you want.

Am I barking up the wrong tree?

This was my thought process through the hand.

I raise UTG. I have been very active preflop, that's why my raise got no "respect" and found 4 callers.

Sam knows I've been raising alot/playing lots of hands, and he's aware the other players on the table know this too.

There's nearly 3k in the pot and really with a pot sized raise, he's going to take it way more than 50% of the time usually.

However, because I believe he is likely to make this squeeze with virtually any 2, my 4 bet is mandatory in my mind, whatever I've opened with.

Does Sam know or give me credit to 4 bet with any two? (well, not exactly any two I'm opening wide UTG, but not any two no look)

Whn he 5 bets so small (I still think this bet is small, but Pleno seems to think it is standard), this gives me a dilemma.

Absolutely I'm calling with 90% of my hands here, the hands I have problem with are my premiums AA, KK, QQ, possibly AK.

Has Sam got the hand he's repping or is he playing with my head?

The other 90% I'm prepared to see the flop, if it fits, I'm going allin, if it doesn't I'm happy to fold.