Hand v Sam Grafton at GUKPT London

[outragous76]

Hang on, I make what could be my funniest post on blonde and you are still all melancholy

Seriously Keith, you didn't play this hand badly at all, just a little bit of muddling thinking against a great live uk pro!

Just pretend you had 23o and the pain goes away (and just jam next time)

[outragous76]

Also, if the flop comes xxx and you get it in vs AA you chalk it up

[The Camel]

Hang on, I make what could be my funniest post on blonde and you are still all melancholy

Seriously Keith, you didn't play this hand badly at all, just a little bit of muddling thinking against a great live uk pro!

Just pretend you had 23o and the pain goes away (and just jam next time)

I dunno, when you were once one of the best at something, and now you're totally shit at the same activity the moment that realisation hits home is pretty soul destroying.

Sort of like Teddy Sheringham missing an open goal while playing for Canvey Island  10 years after scoring a goal in the Champions Legue final.

Where did it all go wrong?

[outragous76]

The games are tougher
You admit you haven't kept up
You arent rubbish but there are lots of good players out there nowadays
There is a tonne of info out there, too many people have access to it!


Poker 2013 is not poker 2003, it's an all together different game.

Do yourself a favour, you tube the first televised series of gukpt (2007) you will laugh at the play, the commentary everything, but some of those players were considered amazing

Oh, and you aren't bad at poker! How much have you even played in the last 12 months! 1 live mtt is no measure of anything

[Tal]

I really think these things are all relative.

Say the very best are above you. They will only be pocketing a percentage point or two at most over you and that equates to not a lot over a small sample size.

If you play live, you will only get a small sample size. You also have the live experience advantage, which probably gets you a chunk of the difference back.

Wish I were as rubbish as you.

[Dry em]

Do yourself a favour, you tube the first televised series of gukpt (2007) you will laugh at the play, the commentary everything, but some of those players were considered amazing

Jesus I was having a good day until I clicked on this thread

[outragous76]

Do yourself a favour, you tube the first televised series of gukpt (2007) you will laugh at the play, the commentary everything, but some of those players were considered amazing

Jesus I was having a good day until I clicked on this thread

hmmmmmmmmmm, not what i meant,...................... maybe......................... "at the time" at the end. The point is, nowadays, we can all laugh at plays we used to make

the game is dynamic and moving was the point I was going for

[LonOhRay]

I dunno, when you were once one of the best at something, and now you're totally shit at the same activity the moment that realisation hits home is pretty soul destroying.

Sort of like Teddy Sheringham missing an open goal while playing for Canvey Island  10 years after scoring a goal in the Champions Legue final.

Where did it all go wrong?

"I have been lazy, I have done little/no work on my game, well, ever really."

[The Camel]

The games are tougher
You admit you haven't kept up
You arent rubbish but there are lots of good players out there nowadays
There is a tonne of info out there, too many people have access to it!


Poker 2013 is not poker 2003, it's an all together different game.

Do yourself a favour, you tube the first televised series of gukpt (2007) you will laugh at the play, the commentary everything, but some of those players were considered amazing

Oh, and you aren't bad at poker! How much have you even played in the last 12 months! 1 live mtt is no measure of anything

Very kind of you to say Guy, but with respect I don't think we've ever played on the same table, so you can't really comment on my overall skills (or lack them.)

Saw Jake Cody last night who had read this thread and he commented

"I think you played it fine. Got to give Sammy every opportunity to spew off the maximum amount of chips. The ace on the flop fucked you"

I nodded sagely.

But the truth of the matter was I had no idea awhat Sam had, I was scared he had aces and I was set mining with KK ffs.

Dreenie said there was a 2% chance he had aces, which is obv a slight exageration, but she has a point. Impossible to give him more than 20% imo.

It wasn't just a mistake, my whole thought process was fucked, I have no business being in the same game as someone who can outplay me so thoroughly.

[GreekStein]

Keith there's no doubt you are still a winning player. I really cant imagine there are very many who were in a similar situation as you 10 and 15 years ago who are still profitable and making money.

Channing and Paul Jackson obviously and very few others.

I could name several who are now pennyless without the prospect of ever making money at the game because they refused to move down or do anything at all to improve and re-learn as the game improved.

Just look at the TV shows of 6/7/8 years ago compared with those of today. I reckon average age of player has decreased by 20 years.

How many players who are over 40 do you think use any software when playing online? How many have ever watched a training video?

If you accept you need to do this stuff, then you'll be just fine. 99% don't and therein lies their problem, especially given how much more difficult it is to unlearn things that don't work anymore.

[BulldozerD]

good thread. Played fine imo but agree that some of the thought process regarding ranges and sizings may need rethinking - perhaps Sam's image/reputation affected you a little bit?

But don't worry about the one guy that can give you problems at the table though, consider the other 8 players who will eventually try and give you most of their chips. It is still why (generally) playing live tournaments is profitable and certainly should be for someone with your ability/record.

I think the fact that the table is soft except for you 2 means that that Sam is a little less likely to get massively OOL against you and vice versa? Looks like a possible cooler to me.

[outragous76]

I would also add, re your last comment, providing you think you are better/as good as the top 15% of the field, you should be in the game. There will always be better players.

[The Camel]

One thing I do know.

The absolute most important skill a poker player can possess is the ability to judge his ability and play in games that he is capable of beating.

Some kids are really good players, but are losing because playing in games that they can't beat.

If they dropped down a rung or two, they'd smash it up, they don't because their ego won't allow them to.

I've always prided myself that I'm pretty ego free and honest with myself as regards to self analysis.

I would never have claimed to be be better a better player than Sam, Rupert, Jake, Toby etc etc

But it seems like I have to accept I'm further behind them than I ever realised, as long as I take this on board and pick my spots better, I could be ok.

[Tal]

Just stay out of any games I play, you rampant lagtard.

[The Camel]

Just stay out of any games I play, you rampant lagtard.

When is the next Incredible 100 at DTD?

I'm in like Flynn.