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« Reply #105 on: June 12, 2013, 12:51:52 PM »

So there running every weekend then
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« Reply #106 on: June 12, 2013, 06:18:08 PM »

Is there gonna be mega sats last week before the tourney?
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« Reply #107 on: June 12, 2013, 06:27:40 PM »

Are there going to be mega sats in the last week before the tourney?

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But this is a weekly competition so which would be the last week?
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« Reply #108 on: June 12, 2013, 06:50:56 PM »

So there running every weekend then

over wsop/summer period depending on success
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« Reply #109 on: June 12, 2013, 06:52:01 PM »

Is there gonna be mega sats last week before the tourney?

it's a weekly tourney, we expect most players to DBI, online sats will qualify 60+ players each week
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« Reply #110 on: June 13, 2013, 08:16:47 AM »

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned (sorry if it has), but doesn't this change the whole dynamics of the tournament and give people an unfair advantage regarding if they get into day two early? Lets say John Smith gets into day two at first attempt & knows he has a min cash, then can obv spin again with profit.

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« Reply #111 on: June 13, 2013, 08:36:08 AM »

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned (sorry if it has), but doesn't this change the whole dynamics of the tournament and give people an unfair advantage regarding if they get into day two early? Lets say John Smith gets into day two at first attempt & knows he has a min cash, then can obv spin again with profit.



Why would he have a profit? He's statistically a dog to get a merged stack and if you get in top 10% twice or more you only guaranteed one min cash.
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« Reply #112 on: June 13, 2013, 08:45:10 AM »

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned (sorry if it has), but doesn't this change the whole dynamics of the tournament and give people an unfair advantage regarding if they get into day two early? Lets say John Smith gets into day two at first attempt & knows he has a min cash, then can obv spin again with profit.



Why would he have a profit? He's statistically a dog to get a merged stack and if you get in top 10% twice or more you only guaranteed one min cash.

£115 entry to Day1,
Min cash for making Day2 = £300
£115 entry to second Day1
£300-(£115+£115) = £70

It's kind of a freeroll at a bigger stack but as Rob pointed out earlier it's unlikely to be achieved. Think it's more likely that someone with a tiny Day2 stack would try to merge than someone with an average or big stack. Even if they do, the Chipleader tournaments both had players with monster stacks who failed to run deep.

I didn't like the idea of a risk-free second bullet but have come round to the idea that it isn't massively disadvantageous for those who aren't rolled to attempt it.
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« Reply #113 on: June 13, 2013, 09:01:47 AM »

Although you mention £115 x 2, it could just see one player just attempt to get a second bullet via sats if already making day two.

Going to be interesting.
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« Reply #114 on: June 13, 2013, 10:09:50 AM »

Not to mention that merging stacks is -£ev.  If players want to take more bullets to run up a stack, it only benefits the rest of the field.
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« Reply #115 on: June 13, 2013, 10:37:23 AM »

The smurf bagged himself a seat from the £15 freezeout last night  dad dont dance

A small feat but made me happy after nearly busting in 7th

Glad to see a fast clock wrapped it up by half ten for us early rise workers

Now just got to beat 90% of the field to make the money  
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« Reply #116 on: June 13, 2013, 10:55:06 AM »

Any 'unfair advantage' due to merging stacks is by far outweighed by the 50 GTD prize pool for a £115 buy in.

As stated the number of players who go through with merged stacks will be small but the the prize pool should be boosted by those trying.

Is it WSOP structure all the way through apart from the clock?
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« Reply #117 on: June 13, 2013, 11:24:52 AM »

Am I thinking this through the right way ?

To merge a stack you obv already need a stack, so the chances of doing so are 1 in 10.
Saying its a 1000-1 shot is wrong ?

Anyone who successfully merges is essentially putting an extra £400 in the prize pool.
The buyin + 1 min cash rule.

Get merging !
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« Reply #118 on: June 13, 2013, 11:28:58 AM »

If we are playing down to 10%, no idea when the live day ones will finish?!
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« Reply #119 on: June 13, 2013, 01:41:22 PM »

Am I thinking this through the right way ?

To merge a stack you obv already need a stack, so the chances of doing so are 1 in 10.
Saying its a 1000-1 shot is wrong ?

Anyone who successfully merges is essentially putting an extra £400 in the prize pool.
The buyin + 1 min cash rule.

Get merging !

For easy maths...assume there was 100 runners every day and 10 % made it through from Day 1( 10 players ) then that would be a genuine 1 in 10 or a 9-1 chance

If the same number made it through the next day (from 100 runners) and the same  player was lucky enough to be in that 10 then his odds  of merging his stack would be 99-1 

If the same number made it through to the next day and the same player was luck enough to make it  yet again then the odds would be 999-1  etc etc

Variables in the odds will occur when this isnt an exact 10%  (ie 101 to 109 runners )

So in answer to your question 3 merged stacks will be approx 1000 -1  (unless there are any other factors)

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