Stuart Hall, 15 months.

[snoopy1239]

Are some of you insane ?

I have two daughters 13 & 14 .....can you please think what if this was your daughter !

a minor offence is pinching a mars bar from the corner shop.

Don't compare it to anything or anyone else has done

He should of got 5 years

Good post

I think you're looking at the wrong context - it's not that they're a minor offence, it's that they are a minor child abuse/sex offence.

Obviously all child abuse and sex offences are serious but you still have to differentiate between different types.

Agree he should have got at least 5 years

I really struggle that you can with this type of crime.

Surely there's a big difference between standing in front of kids in their underpants and actually raping and/or torturing a child.

[kinboshi]

simply outraged by this lenient sentence . disgusting
should make no odds as to the age of the offender , their perceived reputation or when it was committed.

some guy got sentenced to 3 1/2 years the same day for graffiti.

ffs im so ANGRY ! and everyone should be up in arms about this !

Direct action , protests , marches . come on everyone !
Sentencings such as this wont change otherwise.

The law has already changed.

[The Camel]

Interesting to see what this guy in comparison to Hall

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22991868

[Dubai]

Obviously he will get more than that, probably double as the law takes the "position of trust" very seriously

[SirPerceval]

Interesting to see what this guy in comparison to Hall

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22991868

2 very different cases.

[The Camel]

Interesting to see what this guy in comparison to Hall

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22991868

2 very different cases.

Obviously couldn't be more different.

Don't see the point in jailing this guy, except perhaps as a deterrent to others.

Don't think he's a danger to anyone.

[Dubai]

Agree with you however if they let him off without a jail term then future "predators" can have a free pop at  15 year old pupils knowing as long as they say they love them then its a get out of jail free card.

[The Camel]

Agree with you however if they let him off without a jail term then future "predators" can have a free pop at  15 year old pupils knowing as long as they say they love them then its a get out of jail free card.

Think 99.99% of teachers realise that a relationship with a 15 year old student is wrong and wouldn't cross that line.

[SirPerceval]

It is an interesting case.

There are many countries where getting married and having kids at 13 is not only legal but also the normal practice.

You could argue its a case of 2 people in love so what harm is being done.
You could however argue that he should know better and should not abuse the trust for his sexual gratification.
My arguement would be they are both nuts! and vunerable.

[The Camel]

It is an interesting case.

There are many countries where getting married and having kids at 13 is not only legal but also the normal practice.

You could argue its a case of 2 people in love so what harm is being done.
You could however argue that he should know better and should not abuse the trust for his sexual gratification.
My arguement would be they are both nuts! and vunerable.

I think an appropriate sentence in this case is to ban him from teaching and sstop him from making any contact with the girl until her 16th birthday.

[Jon MW]

Agree with you however if they let him off without a jail term then future "predators" can have a free pop at  15 year old pupils knowing as long as they say they love them then its a get out of jail free card.

Think 99.99% of teachers realise that a relationship with a 15 year old student is wrong and wouldn't cross that line.

Because I live quite near where they're from it has had extensive coverage on the local news. When it first happened my first impression was that he was possibly a little 'misguided'.

But after more details came out my impression now is that he isn't/wasn't necessarily predatory but somewhat more opportunistic.

It's really fairly common for girls to have crushes on male teachers, it takes a certain kind of man to take advantage of that opportunity. I agree that he doesn't seem to be a general danger to the public, but I think even if they just jailed him as a deterrent measure to others that would be more than enough justification by itself.

[SirPerceval]

The bottom line is he had sex with a 15 year old.

Isn't that statutory rape?

Jail IMO.

How would you feel if it was your 15 year old daugther?

[snoopy1239]

The bottom line is he had sex with a 15 year old.

Isn't that statutory rape?

Jail IMO.

How would you feel if it was your 15 year old daugther?

I always read this 'how would you feel it it was your... etc' type of post on blonde, but I'm not sure that's the best way to approach the legal system when discussing a fair and just sentence. If a judge thought about his own daughter as the victim, then surely that would make for a less objective decision.

[The Camel]

The bottom line is he had sex with a 15 year old.

Isn't that statutory rape?

Jail IMO.

How would you feel if it was your 15 year old daugther?

I always read this 'how would you feel it it was your... etc' type of post on blonde, but I'm not sure that's the best way to approach the legal system when discussing a fair and just sentence. If a judge thought about his own daughter as the victim, then surely that would make for a less objective decision.

I would feel like I've fucked up badly as a parent.

[SirPerceval]

The bottom line is he had sex with a 15 year old.

Isn't that statutory rape?

Jail IMO.

How would you feel if it was your 15 year old daugther?

I always read this 'how would you feel it it was your... etc' type of post on blonde, but I'm not sure that's the best way to approach the legal system when discussing a fair and just sentence. If a judge thought about his own daughter as the victim, then surely that would make for a less objective decision.

I would feel like I've fucked up badly as a parent.

I agree, and I would feel that way if I was the parent of the guy too.

My point is the guy should be held accountable for the fact he "groomed" (if indeed he did). 15 year old girls are very vunerable, even with the best parenting.