Short term 180s backing...

[RED-DOG]

Why on earth is this thread getting spammed? A professional poker player is trying to sort backing out so he can continue playing and he has had to cope with some absolutely ridiculous posts in the thread. This is unbelievably tilting and wouldn't be tolerated in a DTD thread or in many other topics in the forum. I have no clue what people are doing. So far we have had someone try to invest who completely failed to read the 70/30 part, about 3 people pop up and go what 70/30 are you serious, and then a bunch of other mindless drivel. Honestly, find some other thread for this.

With respect, this is a public forum. People post their opinions on the topics that interest them, just as you have.

The vast majority, if not all of the posters on here wish Ray the very best, myself included.

In a public forum there may be topics such as "RIP Mr Smith" In this topic it would be seen as rude and disgusting behaviour to go around posting such pictures. Perhaps a topic such as this should be classified as the same? Not all threads on public forums require the same decorum when it comes to posting.

This should be classified the same as a RIP thread?

Do you think referring to other people's posts as "Mindless drivel" would be fitting in that case?

[rfgqqabc]

Why on earth is this thread getting spammed? A professional poker player is trying to sort backing out so he can continue playing and he has had to cope with some absolutely ridiculous posts in the thread. This is unbelievably tilting and wouldn't be tolerated in a DTD thread or in many other topics in the forum. I have no clue what people are doing. So far we have had someone try to invest who completely failed to read the 70/30 part, about 3 people pop up and go what 70/30 are you serious, and then a bunch of other mindless drivel. Honestly, find some other thread for this.

With respect, this is a public forum. People post their opinions on the topics that interest them, just as you have.

The vast majority, if not all of the posters on here wish Ray the very best, myself included.

In a public forum there may be topics such as "RIP Mr Smith" In this topic it would be seen as rude and disgusting behaviour to go around posting such pictures. Perhaps a topic such as this should be classified as the same? Not all threads on public forums require the same decorum when it comes to posting.

This should be classified the same as a RIP thread?

Do you think referring to other people's posts as "Mindless drivel" would be fitting in that case?

No but having some respect for a professional trying to get some backing might be worthwhile. You can completely ignore the gist of my points if you want but I'm clearly not going to change your mind so w.e.

[RED-DOG]

Why on earth is this thread getting spammed? A professional poker player is trying to sort backing out so he can continue playing and he has had to cope with some absolutely ridiculous posts in the thread. This is unbelievably tilting and wouldn't be tolerated in a DTD thread or in many other topics in the forum. I have no clue what people are doing. So far we have had someone try to invest who completely failed to read the 70/30 part, about 3 people pop up and go what 70/30 are you serious, and then a bunch of other mindless drivel. Honestly, find some other thread for this.

With respect, this is a public forum. People post their opinions on the topics that interest them, just as you have.

The vast majority, if not all of the posters on here wish Ray the very best, myself included.

In a public forum there may be topics such as "RIP Mr Smith" In this topic it would be seen as rude and disgusting behaviour to go around posting such pictures. Perhaps a topic such as this should be classified as the same? Not all threads on public forums require the same decorum when it comes to posting.

This should be classified the same as a RIP thread?

Do you think referring to other people's posts as "Mindless drivel" would be fitting in that case?

No but having some respect for a professional trying to get some backing might be worthwhile. You can completely ignore the gist of my points if you want but I'm clearly not going to change your mind so w.e.

I'm not ignoring your points, I'm just disagreeing with you, and I'm managing to do it without saying that what you write is mindless drivel.

[TightEnd]

Hi Adam

Not sure if Ray is unhappy? Suspect not but he can let us know

It makes no difference if a Pro or an amateur asks for staking. Its an open thread, and people are entitled to question the terms of any staking, whether as onlookers or whether as potential investors

Any humour/de-rail etc is no different to any other "normal" blonde thread, staking or not and I think you are being a little precious, and exaggerating quite a lot, to seek to compare it to any "RIP" thread where I have never ever seen any humour or de-rail in 8 years of blonde and counting

cheers

[GreekStein]

Not sure if Ray is unhappy?

depends how many beers deep he is

[Nico29]

Hi Adam

Not sure if Ray is unhappy? Suspect not but he can let us know

It makes no difference if a Pro or an amateur asks for staking. Its an open thread, and people are entitled to question the terms of any staking, whether as onlookers or whether as potential investors

Any humour/de-rail etc is no different to any other "normal" blonde thread, staking or not and I think you are being a little precious, and exaggerating quite a lot, to seek to compare it to any "RIP" thread where I have never ever seen any humour or de-rail in 8 years of blonde and counting

cheers

Meh don't think Adam is being precious at all.

So many dubious posts itt it's amazing.

Op asks for staking, gets told he's a terrible punt by somebody, and then a few people start posting pictures and act like children over what the 'deal' is.

Thankfully due to OP's rep he's sold out in no time, but I can totally see why someone might find the whole de-rail of fred as off putting from an actual staking point of view.

Obv being a bit of a hypocrite by debating this whole thing myself, let's just get back to the poker.

[titaniumbean]

really doubt anyone is going to back ray that already doesn't know him and/or wouldn't find at least some of the drivel funny.

[mondatoo]

Not sure if Ray is unhappy?

depends how many beers deep he is

Oioiiiiiiii

Everyone's entitled to say anything they like, and so they should.

[TightEnd]

He wasn't told he was a terrible punt, he was told his stake package was a terrible punt. Not words I would have used, but some people don't do constructive criticism.

If Ray was at all unhappy, he could have had a word with a mod. He didn't

All this coming to his defence over something where he's quite capable of fighting his own corner, and indeed did is a bit odd, in my opinion

[titaniumbean]

the 'terrible punt' was an awful statement.

trying to say +ev stake, low variance but ITS TERRIBLE because i'm a degen is ridic.

Questioning the payouts I have no problem with, asking for justification fine. but coming in and giving your own opinion based on your own personal criteria then preaching that it's a terrible stake is bad form imo.

[Nico29]

He wasn't told he was a terrible punt, he was told his stake package was a terrible punt. Not words I would have used, but some people don't do constructive criticism.

If Ray was at all unhappy, he could have had a word with a mod. He didn't

All this coming to his defence over something where he's quite capable of fighting his own corner, and indeed did is a bit odd, in my opinion

Don't see how it's odd, just my opinion.

[rfgqqabc]

Hi Adam

Not sure if Ray is unhappy? Suspect not but he can let us know

It makes no difference if a Pro or an amateur asks for staking. Its an open thread, and people are entitled to question the terms of any staking, whether as onlookers or whether as potential investors

Any humour/de-rail etc is no different to any other "normal" blonde thread, staking or not and I think you are being a little precious, and exaggerating quite a lot, to seek to compare it to any "RIP" thread where I have never ever seen any humour or de-rail in 8 years of blonde and counting

cheers

I was simply using the first example that sprang to mind of a thread in which such posts would not be welcome. This appears to have made my point irrelevant. Open thread or not I don't think it is right to be posting like this in someones topic. And I certainly think it makes a difference when it is a poster who is playing for a living compared to if not. If a conversation like this sprung up in one of my schedule posts I would not mind so much, but Ray is clearly in a bit of a situation, and I thought this would be a reason to have a little respect.

So correct me if I'm wrong, but this is 70 / 30 in your favour, right?

Yep.

70 / 30?

after stakeback without ever leaving in makeup yes.

In ray's favour?

do me a favour love

can you just run it By me again plz?

alas, i'm not a runner.

Exchanges like this are incredibly a touch frustrating for me and I would imagine so for Ray as well. It isn't constructive in anyway at all. I don't see why this should be allowed in the staking boards. I know Tomsom posted a few pics as well, but his were regarding the comments in the topic. I'm not sure why if I have an opinion I am being precious? Why would you choose this word? I am a investor in this topic/package and have an interest in seeing it nice and clean with easy access to updates. I am not fighting Ray's corner, I am fighting mine as an investor in both this package and the marketplace.

[TightEnd]

comparing it to a RIP thread was the precious part, I thought.

Makes absolutely no difference if a person seeking staking is a Pro or not, we're pretty clear on that on blonde most of the time

Anyway, everyone wishes Ray all the best

[RED-DOG]

Obv being a bit of a hypocrite by debating this whole thing myself, let's just get back to the poker.

Basically then, you know your being a hypocrite, but you still want to have your say and then lets get back to the poker.

So your different from the rest of us how?

[rfgqqabc]

comparing it to a RIP thread was the precious part, I thought.

Makes absolutely no difference if a person seeking staking is a Pro or not, we're pretty clear on that on blonde most of the time

Anyway, everyone wishes Ray all the best

Professional who has been openly honest about being extremely short of cash.