Famous people who have achieved success way beyond their talent level

[AdamM]

Astonishes me there's ANY place for a "comedian" like Chubby Brown these days.

[The Camel]

Davina McCall
Dave Yates
Zoey Bird

I used to be firmly in the anti Dave Yates brigade, but softened my stance recently.

If you take him as entertainment not a racing expert, he is quite charming and funny.

Obviously hasn't got the skills of Willoughby, Mellish or Cunningham, but likeable nonetheless.

[Chompy]

[ripple11]

hope you don't mean The Cherries.....now we're in The Championship 

[The Camel]

Agreed.

She is hopeless.

I think there is room for more non footballers as pundits on the beautiful game. But she is terrible.

[Tal]

She's far better than Kamara at describing what's going on.

I think that whole show is brilliant, despite being almost entirely made up of poor analysis from people who don't demonstrate the skills to do the job. Being a good player doesn't make you a good pundit.

Is it too much to expect them to know and be able to pronounce the names of the players, to be able to describe events they've just seen (such as being able to tell me whether a cross came from the left or the right, in the air or on the ground, headed towards the near or far post, well directed or deflected...) or to give genuine insight into the game?

Paul Merson has got a lot better at explaining things in the 12-3 bit, even if he then gets comically flustered sometimes... Some of them on there must have info on some of the producers.

The one that stands out is Jeff Stelling. Whether he knows all the stuff or he's just good at relaying information given to him through his earpiece, he does it very well and plays a great part. The rest of it is "the old boys" stuff and they're no better than the blokes down the pub, ranting about things they've done no real research about.

Not a case of "I could do better", but if I were in that position, I would go on having done some research into the game I was reviewing and would make sure I'd heard of whichever managers were being linked with a job, where they'd worked and so on.

I'd probably best stop now or I'll get an RSI.

[celtic]

I like the ex footballers doing the reporting.

The fact that they are all terrible, kinda helps me enjoy it.

Charlie Nicholas on Saturday was superb, he was covering the Everton free kick, mirallis can't take this, it should be baynes, what's going on? Let Baynes take it, get out the way mirallis, come in baynes for god sake... Ohhhhh what a goal by mirallis, then spend the next 20 seconds screaming down the camera and laughing at himself.

[craigbetts]

Classic Kammy!!!

[DungBeetle]

Stelling is good, but he has definitely deteriorated as he starts believing his own hype.  3/4 years ago he was superb, but now he has become a bit of an ego.

Bianca Westwood is terrible, doesn't describe what is going on and gets flustered.

The best pundits are the low profile ones at the Championship grounds like Dickie Davis, Bryn Law and Johnny Phillips

[horseplayer]

Westwood is beyond poor "he did a good kick and it went in" being my "fav" line of hers

Paul Walsh almost as bad often does Championship games and has no idea who any of the players are (look at the teamsheets?) and is just very arrogant

[booder]

Westwood is beyond poor "he did a good kick and it went in" being my "fav" line of hers

Paul Walsh almost as bad often does Championship games and has no idea who any of the players are (look at the teamsheets?) and is just very arrogant

Paul Walsh will always be remembered fondly by me for landing a right hook on Kevin Bond in a game against Southampton after being spat at. Great punch.

*been trying to find the clip unsuccessfully

[DungBeetle]

haha - I remember that. 

It was shown on Saint and Greavsie.  And Greavsie said "There is nothing worse in football than spitting."  (Walsh decks Bond) "Well except that"

[DungBeetle]

I think the punch happened in the 2nd leg of this league cup semi final.  But can't find the other match as it was 0-0 I think so little demand for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSj3rjXgQ7Q

[jakally]

Honestly, you are aload of footie snobs.
Westwood is lovely, and her enthusiasm is very watchable.

If you want accurate match reporting, I'm afraid Soccer Sat. isn't aimed towards you,