Marine sent to prison

[Woodsey]

Tbh, he was so casual about it, it gave me with the feeling it's a common occurrence, dunno if that is right or not....

[Acidmouse]

Tbh, he was so casual about it, it gave me with the feeling it's a common occurrence, dunno if that is right or not....

Well that's the scary thing, the language they used in the film was so casual and relaxed, almost like this was not a huge deal. It opens up a whole bunch of questions about what really goes on?

[RED-DOG]

Is you is, or is you aint my baby?

Louis Jordan & His Tympani Five

[RED-DOG]

Tom & Jerry version.

[Doobs]

It happens often and virtually 99% of the times soldiers do it out of sight of anything/anyone else. If rumors go around of some act being on tape/recorded then like others have said it has to come out else there is nothing worse than 5 years down the line someone whistle blowing and it making front page news of cover up slaughtering captives, which PR wise is ten fold worse for the forces.

QFT

It happens often etc.  Not, it will happen from now on.

[Acidmouse]

It happens often and virtually 99% of the times soldiers do it out of sight of anything/anyone else. If rumors go around of some act being on tape/recorded then like others have said it has to come out else there is nothing worse than 5 years down the line someone whistle blowing and it making front page news of cover up slaughtering captives, which PR wise is ten fold worse for the forces.

QFT

It happens often etc.  Not, it will happen from now on.

I admitted 'often' was wrong word to use It should be when it does happen...

I apologised to JJ

 Note to self: stick to playing Guild Wars 2 and other mindless bollocks next time lol.

[celtic]

Hasn't this been happening for years anyway, not just in Afghanistan and Iraq. I'm surprised people are surprised.

Can someone explain though, how a British court can try him for a crime commuted abroad? I'm sure there is a good reason.

[simonnatur]

I'm not the least surprised at the act, but like others am surprised by the casualness. It seems to me that the use of a sidearm at close range might in itself make for some awkward questions, if anyone was inclined to ask them. Seems to me these guys were pretty confident none would be asked.

I am shocked that he was publicly named, whatever we think of his punishment it seems wrong to expose his family to possible retaliation.

[Ironside]

we all know this sot of thing goies on as a former squaddie i kinda feel it gors on alot more often than most people would think
but you dotn do it infront of a camera and if you do you make sure the footage is lost for ever
once footage is found then there is nothing else that can be done
if there is an attempt at cover up then it will come out

the marine should spend his time in a military jail thought and his name should not be in public domain

How? Why? and if this is true, why hasn't it come out until now? Is it because technology has become more advanced, so it's recorded and viewed by proxy? if yes to this and your statement above is true, why hasn't more come out? 

sorry i was kinda blazing last night

the bit you highlight was meant too say
once the footage had been found by a civvy in a lab somewhere
it would of been shown too numerous people while they work out what they
aer seeing and hearing if they had tried too cover it up and keep it quiet it would of leaked
and alot of people would be in alot more crap

[Rexas]

Sorta want to wade in here and make a quick point about reporting. It's rare, especially in a situations like these, that what is reported is going to be entirely factual. Journalists are looking to get the first information on a new story, and will often print the most immediate information as quickly as possible, and rarely take/have the time to take a longer look at the evidence and sort out the facts from the here-say. I wouldn't presume to be an expert on anything reported in any paper. It is very surprising how quickly one person's report can become fact in many peoples eyes. This is not to say that journalists are lying bastards, but that the pressure that they are under to deliver stories will often lead them to print first and corroborate later.

[Royal Flush]

Sorta want to wade in here and make a quick point about reporting. It's rare, especially in a situations like these, that what is reported is going to be entirely factual. Journalists are looking to get the first information on a new story, and will often print the most immediate information as quickly as possible, and rarely take/have the time to take a longer look at the evidence and sort out the facts from the here-say. I wouldn't presume to be an expert on anything reported in any paper. It is very surprising how quickly one person's report can become fact in many peoples eyes. This is not to say that journalists are lying bastards, but that the pressure that they are under to deliver stories will often lead them to print first and corroborate later.

Errrm he has been convicted of murder, what exactly have they done wrong in the reporting?

[Rexas]

I am not sure I need to have served in the forces to know whats being reported.

@ flushy, my last comment was more in reply to this one than the guy being convicted of murder, although I'm sure some of the details in that story have changed since it first came out. I'm not attacking anyone here too, I'm kinda spending three years aiming at being a journaloust :p

[Woodsey]

As for the casualness I don't know. Not defending them but I met a company from a unit a few years ago that had a ridiculous attrition rate. 7 of them came back from tour out of a platoon...I can't remember exact numbers but thats like 15% not killed or injured. Absolutely broken guys, almost zombie like. Perhaps casualness can be mistaken for the symptoms of a brutal tour. I really don't know, but would never take things at face value.

Well if they have seen even just a couple of their mates killed you can understand why they would do this. I'm leaning gradually more to that side of the argument after reading more stuff about it.

[celtic]

As for the casualness I don't know. Not defending them but I met a company from a unit a few years ago that had a ridiculous attrition rate. 7 of them came back from tour out of a platoon...I can't remember exact numbers but thats like 15% not killed or injured. Absolutely broken guys, almost zombie like. Perhaps casualness can be mistaken for the symptoms of a brutal tour. I really don't know, but would never take things at face value.

Well if they have seen even just a couple of their mates killed you can understand why they would do this. I'm leaning gradually more to that side of the argument after reading more stuff about it.

What it would be a good reason for some insurgents to capture and kill a British soldier?

[Woodsey]

As for the casualness I don't know. Not defending them but I met a company from a unit a few years ago that had a ridiculous attrition rate. 7 of them came back from tour out of a platoon...I can't remember exact numbers but thats like 15% not killed or injured. Absolutely broken guys, almost zombie like. Perhaps casualness can be mistaken for the symptoms of a brutal tour. I really don't know, but would never take things at face value.

Well if they have seen even just a couple of their mates killed you can understand why they would do this. I'm leaning gradually more to that side of the argument after reading more stuff about it.

What it would be a good reason for some insurgents to capture and kill a British soldier?

No idea, you should ask an insurgent lol