The Wild Rollercoaster - Just A Kid With A Lifelong Dream

[Ice Shade]

Good luck tomorrow.

Hope tighty gives you plenty of ribbing on the update.

Would be incred if you won it.

Cheers mate

I'd expect no less frankly

Be a story that's for sure

[Ice Shade]

If there was ever a time to pat myself on the back it's probably be this one. But you guys were right, the sting of this...least for the moment, is alot to bear. Out with only six hands to go before the end of day one, bitter to say the least.

I want to personally thank all of those of you who took the time out to check on my progress, it was heartwarming to say the least and spurred me on throughout the day. Easily the longest grind of my life, 8-9 hours of never/barely being above 30 bigs, the few times I was I'd get slapped straight back down again. We got lucky in a few occasions I will admit (squeeze play with 68hh that got called and binked...set over set, a fair few Ax vs lower Ax'es) but when it mattered the most the luck simply was not there. Winning 5/10k pots is one thing...but losing every day two stack chance is a hammer blow not many can come back from.

I might go over the key hands sometime down the line but my head is fuzzy at the moment. I have to come to terms with the fact three relatively close friends have backed out completely now, and that this...while considerably cheaper than before, was still alot of money to lose. I'm proud of the fact not once did the buyin enter my mind during the day. Gives me a boost knowing that I am comfortable in-game no matter the stakes (well, so far)

Time to pick up the pieces I guess...gave it literally everything, can't say farer than that really.

For those wondering about the grind, my stack went like this across the 9 levels, these are at levels end only:-
33,700 - 8,525 - 15,350 - 22,625 - 43,375 - 21,300 - 24,300 - 40,500 - 34,100

[JGill_DTD]

If there was ever a time to pat myself on the back it's probably be this one. But you guys were right, the sting of this...least for the moment, is alot to bear. Out with only six hands to go before the end of day one, bitter to say the least.

I want to personally thank all of those of you who took the time out to check on my progress, it was heartwarming to say the least and spurred me on throughout the day. Easily the longest grind of my life, 8-9 hours of never/barely being above 30 bigs, the few times I was I'd get slapped straight back down again. We got lucky in a few occasions I will admit (squeeze play with 68hh that got called and binked...set over set, a fair few Ax vs lower Ax'es) but when it mattered the most the luck simply was not there. Winning 5/10k pots is one thing...but losing every day two stack chance is a hammer blow not many can come back from.

I might go over the key hands sometime down the line but my head is fuzzy at the moment. I have to come to terms with the fact three relatively close friends have backed out completely now, and that this...while considerably cheaper than before, was still alot of money to lose. I'm proud of the fact not once did the buyin enter my mind during the day. Gives me a boost knowing that I am comfortable in-game no matter the stakes (well, so far)

Time to pick up the pieces I guess...gave it literally everything, can't say farer than that really.

For those wondering about the grind, my stack went like this across the 9 levels, these are at levels end only:-
33,700 - 8,525 - 15,350 - 22,625 - 43,375 - 21,300 - 24,300 - 40,500 - 34,100

we down the line yet?

[Ice Shade]

Got a couple that I've remembered. Details are as accurate as possible but simplified where needed. Everything had reasons, even if I can't remember them on here. There was no move I made by simply "clicking buttons"

Blinds: 150/300/25
Starting Stack: 38,000
UTG+2 with   , raise to 650
CO calls, BTN 3bet to 1700
Call call, three way flop  
Check check, BTN bets 2100
Call, fold, heads up turn  
Check, BTN bets 2100, call
River  
Check, BTN bets 4500, I raise to 9200, BTN ships 28,000, I fold

Logic behind this was that his reaction down every street was one of increasing worry, pre he had a tendency to raise really small with monsters (crying call material) so his three bet signalled a strong hand, I went with good implied odds as I didn't believe him capable of folding overpairs, float the flop seems fine to me as I have immediate outs, when they complete and he fires a second time all I put him on are AQ+/10's+, so I'm content to bomb the river expecting to get paid provided I think I'm still ahead. Worst river in the world and more-so when he snap double checked his cards, he looked excited. My raise is purely to find out where I am. I could probably make it more but I'm worried of over committing on a paired board. His ship was almost instant, at which point what am I really beating? I don't think he 3's pre with KQ, that's not his style. So all I can reasonably have him on is AQ/AA/QQ/JJ. He could have KK, I'm not too sure on that one. But I just think calling off is terrible, not sure though.

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Blinds: 250/500/50
Starting Stack: 22,500
Four limpers (UTG, CO, BTN, SB) I'm BB with    , raise to 2400
UTG flats, CO folds, BTN shoves for 91,000, SB folds, I fold

Probably fairly standard but I want clarification. One important thing to note is that the button has been fairly reckless all tournament, but never like this, his standard play would have probably been a 7k 3bet, I just thought that it could be an insane play with the top of his range trying to look spewy or that it was the standard over shove. Either way I considered myself good enough not to risk everything in this spot.

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Blinds: 600/1200/200
Starting Stack: 32,100
Folds to HJ who raises to 2,600, folds to my BTN and call with  
Flop  
He bets 3,400, I shove 29,300, he calls with  
Turn   River  

This is the one I'm interested in. After having thought it through I do know my read on him was the standard ABC with slight tricks, when he's raising 30 minutes before the end of the day I'm putting him on a standard range (AJ+, KQ, 8's+). When he makes the bet on the flop I know most likely I am ahead, I don't put him on A7 and A4 is highly unlikely. Another thing to note is that his bet takes all pocket pairs out of his range above 7's, he was an obvious trickster post-flop because every time he had the board beat he would also let the other guy hang himself, check calling every street. My idea here was to look like a spewy shove with the knowledge if he does have me beat I likely have the straight/two pair redraws, I had a feeling that he would likely call off with AK/AQ type hands which I'm still ahead of, I'm looking for the fade to double to around 65/70k then I'm a lock for day 2. If I didn't think I was ahead I don't make this move. At all. And I'm only making it with the idea he calls off with high aces...again, I rule out all pocket pairs because of the flop bet, it just wasn't his style, even with the betting lead.

[scotty77]

first 2 hands look fine.

third hand is just terrible.  you have 5 high and 25bb.  you are gonna find such better spots in the next couple of orbits than to peel and try and 'outplay' with position and 45o.

[Ice Shade]

first 2 hands look fine.

third hand is just terrible.  you have 5 high and 25bb.  you are gonna find such better spots in the next couple of orbits than to peel and try and 'outplay' with position and 45o.

Yeah I've been thinking that and have been told it as well...don't really have an excuse for playing it, just me after 10 hours trying to be isildur out of nowhere

[scotty77]

would also be interesting that if this wasn't a 'shot' and you had a decent BR behind you for these kind of comps, if you do call the shove with AK.

[Tal]

Have to agree with Scotty on the third hand. For quite a while, when I would speak to people about hands, most of my "I'm interested in how you play the river here" hands got the response of "why are you in the hand at all?"

After enough of those, I finally made the decision not to tell those friends about those hands anymore.

Granted, not playing pots with eight high to try to get a guy off second pair would be a much better strategy than doing it and not telling anyone. But nobody's perfect

[Ice Shade]

would also be interesting that if this wasn't a 'shot' and you had a decent BR behind you for these kind of comps, if you do call the shove with AK.

Interesting one yeah...obviously I can't accurately comment because I'm obviously not in such a position. I'm not really sure on this one.

Have to agree with Scotty on the third hand. For quite a while, when I would speak to people about hands, most of my "I'm interested in how you play the river here" hands got the response of "why are you in the hand at all?"

After enough of those, I finally made the decision not to tell those friends about those hands anymore.

Granted, not playing pots with eight high to try to get a guy off second pair would be a much better strategy than doing it and not telling anyone. But nobody's perfect

Nah I put it up to get the consensus I thought I would, and rightly so as you guys say there are better days to be doing it. That said I'm happy I have such moves in my locker, they just need to be better placed

[celtic]

I'm not folding ak there.

[david3103]

What would you do with AK in a £25 XL in that spot?

[verndog158]

What would you do with AK in a £25 XL in that spot?

Had this argument/ discussion at DTD last night. Not about AK, but about playing the comps differenty, as its only a ''£30 quid crapshoot''.
Peoples thoughts? Obviously AK is a little different, no as its the price of the tourny, but due to number of chips and average BBs. Should the buy in for the tournament matter if it involves making the correct poker decision?

[celtic]

No. Right poker decisions>>>>> thinking about the buy in.

[JGill_DTD]

What would you do with AK in a £25 XL in that spot?

Had this argument/ discussion at DTD last night. Not about AK, but about playing the comps differenty, as its only a ''£30 quid crapshoot''.
Peoples thoughts? Obviously AK is a little different, no as its the price of the tourny, but due to number of chips and average BBs. Should the buy in for the tournament matter if it involves making the correct poker decision?

Think the answer is it shouldn't, but it quite often does

[verndog158]

For example, UTG ships 8bbs, UTG+1 rehoves about double that, folds to me with AJ on the button, i sigh, say how much of a nit i am and fold. There im happy witht he decision, as nearly always im behind/ dominated by at least one. One of the guys questioned me and saud how can you fold ace jack, its a £25 comp, got to stick it in and gamble, this was level 3 i think, and i still had 80bbs. Still think its a fold regardless, at that stage, whether its an XXL ot the WSOP ME. Correct thinking or are other flicking it in there in similar scenarios, with similar holdings?