Shark's Scope

[mondatoo]

Does Stars care about pros ?

There is no competition, so they could do pretty much anything they want and I'd still play on Stars, they hold $1 tournaments to get 10k new customers, the site goes haywire and regs get screwed but none of them are going anywhere.

I posted in a thread the other day about having timers in live poker, I hate live poker coz it's far too slow, that didn't stop me giving an unbiased response. I've said it should be banned, yes it's unfair. But no I don't feel bad taking advantage of it when others don't know about it.

[david3103]

I'm pretty sure that Sharkscope terms of use specifically say that the data should not be used in this way. On iPad, playing poker and waiting for Jeeves so can't check (cba really)

[mondatoo]

I went to the gym for two months

Call

I got pneumonia...

A Geordie with pneumonia??? CALLLLL.

Have you got me one of those T-shirts yet fool.

[Doobs]

I'm pretty sure that Sharkscope terms of use specifically say that the data should not be used in this way. On iPad, playing poker and waiting for Jeeves so can't check (cba really)

I am sure this is true. 

[h]

think you should have sent a pm to Billy big Gob rather than to  to the lad who had been abused

yes i seen it many times its a familiar pattern player loses hand obviously he was entitled to win it so vent on victor
if there was no shark scope graphs he would still be venting who knows might be quoting Hud stats instead to go with the DIAGF

I use it but not often once a year collate my own stats and compare to previous year/ years as a sort of retrospective normally Decembers or January
Only very occasionally do i look up another player its mostly when i witness an off center line taken by a player on same table and then am curious  about there stats
other than that might look when on ft bubble to gauge how significant any pay jumps are to that player and or how experienced that player is

i think it does put new ( losing ) players off

think stars have it right should be you have to opt in for your stats to be shown

but then i also think all HUDS should be banned

Tikay, you have the power to chat ban him, so that is what you should do.  You should have had the power to stop him before he went to other tables.  Sky definitely has issues with the amount of personal abuse that goes on.  I can laugh it off, but definitely think you have issues there.

Once you sort that out, you can report the user to sharkscope where they have the power to ban him too.

FWIW, I rarely use Sharkscope for anything other than tracking myself.  

agree with the sky chat box abuse  comment  my perception is it much worse there than i poker i think its because sky nurtures newer players many of whom are striving to improve  and feel aggrieved when there hard work does not pay off  on every hand

Questions: do poker sites have the technical ability to  stop shark scope from data mining or is just the threat of legal action ?
  

[Woodsey]

I don't keep records anymore, so I I find it a useful tool to keep tabs on how much I'm losing lol.

[theprawnidentity]

I went to the gym for two months

Call

I got pneumonia...

A Geordie with pneumonia??? CALLLLL.

Have you got me one of those T-shirts yet fool.

I didn't make the run good t-shirt, but I will ask Tommy Bingham to get you one!!!

[Junior Senior]

Sod all the debate. I am tilted by the title of the thread. Unless, of course it is a play on words and the scope does in deed belong to the shark that is scoping us.... So to speak.

[theprawnidentity]

Sod all the debate. I am tilted by the title of the thread. Unless, of course it is a play on words and the scope does in deed belong to the shark that is scoping us.... So to speak.

Not it's correct.  Site belongs to Bruce:

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[Tal]

Sod all the debate. I am tilted by the title of the thread. Unless, of course it is a play on words and the scope does in deed belong to the shark that is scoping us.... So to speak.

I'm with you. I'm so annoyed, I've only read the title of the thread and your post.

[Junior Senior]

Farce!

[Longy]

I am still shocked that the sites with exception of 888/stars haven't put the boot into sharkscope and gone all legal on their proverbial asses. It is absolutely terrible for the site/ every player to have a player abused in this way and it is way more profitable for the pros to not lose the abused player than seeing how much profit each individual player had.

The abuser should be under no illusion that if he continues with this behaviour that he will be no longer welcome on the site IMO. Maybe with castration to make sure they don't reproduce as an added extra.

From a personal point of view I rarely use sharkscope often have a quick glance through the leaderboards to see who is doing the winning and have a quick look at my tracking software to see what they are doing right/differently. Using HEM/ poker tracker is far more powerful way of studying your opponents, just because they are losing doesn't tell me why they are losing or how to adjust to them. Finding leaks/ exploitive play is a much more useful and damaging to the recreational players than the fact they are simply losing.

[rfgqqabc]

Even if the sites blocked it people would find a way around it. Just like  the under the radar pokertableratings that still exist. Better to keep it legal and open for everyone rather than giving it to a select few. Conversely the select few using these sites can't go about abusing people in chat, so i guess that is an added bonus. I don't really see the issue with sharkscope, if it wasn't there the arseholes would sitill find ways of being an arsehole. Opt in from stars is the best way around it. OPR is opt in too. I believe these changes occured way before last year but dont quote me on it.

[RED-DOG]

How do sharks cope anyway?

[theprawnidentity]

How do sharks cope anyway?

I believe Rammstein can help you out here with their song on the matter:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haifisch