learning from the best

[pleno1]

hey, i played a hand against the best mtt player in the world today which i didnt quite understand. were on the direct bubble of the 44 turbo. my image is joke aggro as ive got a big stack on the bubble. there is people left in the mtt with 1bb.

what do we have to consider in villains spot here? is potential accumulation of chips really more important than cashing here with no fe.



PokerStars Hand #114353162458: Tournament #887462832, $40+$4 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXI (800/1600) - 2014/04/05 21:39:28 CET [2014/04/05 15:39:28 ET]
Table '887462832 30' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: rofrof (14900 in chips)
Seat 2: RuiNF (48153 in chips)
Seat 3: Aguskb (36084 in chips)
Seat 4: claudioney18 (15108 in chips)
Seat 5: pads1161 (48426 in chips)
Seat 6: fumigator8 (34648 in chips)
Seat 7: gstewart1992 (19190 in chips)
Seat 8: Moorman1 (11077 in chips)
rofrof: posts the ante 200
RuiNF: posts the ante 200
Aguskb: posts the ante 200
claudioney18: posts the ante 200
pads1161: posts the ante 200
fumigator8: posts the ante 200
gstewart1992: posts the ante 200
Moorman1: posts the ante 200
gstewart1992: posts small blind 800
Moorman1: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [ Ah]
rofrof: folds
RuiNF: folds
Aguskb: folds
claudioney18: folds
pads1161: raises 1600 to 3200
fumigator8: folds
gstewart1992: folds
Moorman1: raises 7677 to 10877 and is all-in
pads1161: calls 7677

[pleno1]

he had 44 btw.

[pleno1]

72 pay, 85 dollar min cash, 5k ftw.

[pleno1]

i generally avoid turbos and maybe this is the reason why.

[Dubai]

I mean its obv bad from him but I wouldn't read too much into it. Maybe he fancied punting, maybe its $40 and he don't care, might have bust other comps and wants to go out for lunch/dinner- not everyone plays optimally all the time, even if he knows its bad it don't mean he aint allowed to gamble around

[titaniumbean]

1 hes a g
2 everyone makes mistakes
3 he might have just thought fk this pleno kid or im a boss what even is a bubble


obv hes just taken down 265ko as I type this :p

[pleno1]

tomsom who does this geeky stuff all the time says 44 is fine to gii. anybody can recommend a video on these exact spots? im pretty sure im playing way too nitty in these spots.

[titaniumbean]

tomsom who does this geeky stuff all the time says 44 is fine to gii. anybody can recommend a video on these exact spots? im pretty sure im playing way too nitty in these spots.

pair innit bro

Mondas your man obv

[lucky_scrote]

If someone has already bust on another table it's obv fine. It's a profitable chip EV spot but it's 100% a fold otherwise.

I'd say it's very likely he didn't realise it's the bubble (poor) or someone short has already bust. If not, then Chris isn't really much of a winner so I'd say he might just be focusing on bigger stuff and spite getting it in vs you pad.

[Rupert]

I mean its obv bad from him but I wouldn't read too much into it. Maybe he fancied punting, maybe its $40 and he don't care, might have bust other comps and wants to go out for lunch/dinner- not everyone plays optimally all the time, even if he knows its bad it don't mean he aint allowed to gamble around

yeah this + u know he just won a live tourney right? is pretty whatever, he obviously felt a bit oo a bit aaah and stuck it in, i dont think its gonna make it to the book. idk who tomtom is but seems pretty bad get in to me

[Doobs]

How many tables has he got?  Does he even know it is the bubble?   Think I must play the bubble sub optimally if this is obviously bad.  I am a kind of fk it, get them in kind of player obv.  Probably play too much Hilo these days.

Your exit hand was more interesting, 

[pleno1]

Exit was me opening co with kts Chris Oliver 3bet button and we were 3/13 and 4/13 he's so fkn aggro don't think I can ever fold to him would fold k9s but gta make a stand.

[wazz]

Even if he did know it was the bubble, why would he care about a $77 pay jump? I think his jam is absolutely fine

[Pinchop73]

Pair tho.

Sounds like you got daized

[Longy]

Almost certainly -$ev and +cEV.

I would guess Moorman knows this and just didn't care about $44 bubble and would rather get a stack to try and do wins.