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DaveShoelace
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Quote from: Tonji on July 26, 2014, 02:15:48 PM
Swimming has been enjoyable with the British teams competing well with the Aussies. Huge progress from the Worlds, looks promising for Rio.
So it seems like the young Brits are really good at Swimming this year. Would our boys and girls get crushed by the Yanks or is this really the start of some great years ahead for British swimmers?
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Quote from: DaveShoelace on July 27, 2014, 08:42:32 PM
Quote from: Tonji on July 26, 2014, 02:15:48 PM
Swimming has been enjoyable with the British teams competing well with the Aussies. Huge progress from the Worlds, looks promising for Rio.
So it seems like the young Brits are really good at Swimming this year. Would our boys and girls get crushed by the Yanks or is this really the start of some great years ahead for British swimmers?
We always look decent in commnwealths.....
Halsalls gold was world class. Basically you need to look at events where there is a world class swimmer like le clos and then judge the performance.
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We underperformed at major events across a couple of groupings of swimmers from 2002-12 (especially up to 2007 under the coach Sweetenham), with the odd exception like Adlington, so much so that funding was cut as results did not meet targets
since then the training methods and regimes have changed, from top down, and we have a talented set of 19-22 year old swimmers for rio and beyond
ben proud especially looks like he could be a world star. only 19 and even though le clos has had a down year (training problems, injuries) proud beat him fair and square here
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Good that they let the 13 year old swim early so she didnt miss her bedtime.
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Quote from: TightEnd on July 27, 2014, 09:00:43 PM
We underperformed at major events across a couple of groupings of swimmers from 2002-12 (especially up to 2007 under the coach Sweetenham), with the odd exception like Adlington, so much so that funding was cut as results did not meet targets
since then the training methods and regimes have changed, from top down, and we have a talented set of 19-22 year old swimmers for rio and beyond
ben proud especially looks like he could be a world star. only 19 and even though le clos has had a down year (training problems, injuries) proud beat him fair and square here
The commonwealth's are the lowest regarded of the major comps. For many athletes they won't be peaking at ths event so I'd take the results with a pinch of salt sure its great for the competitor and the family etc to see them win medals but more often than not commonwealth form will not translate into world form.
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Quote from: Kmac84 on July 27, 2014, 09:10:36 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on July 27, 2014, 09:00:43 PM
We underperformed at major events across a couple of groupings of swimmers from 2002-12 (especially up to 2007 under the coach Sweetenham), with the odd exception like Adlington, so much so that funding was cut as results did not meet targets
since then the training methods and regimes have changed, from top down, and we have a talented set of 19-22 year old swimmers for rio and beyond
ben proud especially looks like he could be a world star. only 19 and even though le clos has had a down year (training problems, injuries) proud beat him fair and square here
The commonwealth's are the lowest regarded of the major comps. For many athletes they won't be peaking at ths event so I'd take the results with a pinch of salt sure its great for the competitor and the family etc to see them win medals but more often than not commonwealth form will not translate into world form.
Depends on the event and strength of other nations in world terms in that event. Australian sport is in the worst I can remember and they would be looking at this to build towards the olympics.
If you dont win here you wont win in rio so its the first box to tick.
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it doesn't change my point. the 19-22 year olds that the united kingdom have now have a lot of potential, only a few of these will be world class but its encouraging to see them turn up at a major and perform PBs, with a British history of often flopping at majors in the last decade
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Why is Radisha @ 1.57. Seems huge odds. Isn't he far beyond everyone. Injuries?
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Why is Radisha @ 1.57. Seems huge odds. Isn't he far beyond everyone. Injuries?
Just back from injury, but on the basis of his heat and improvement from his recent diamond league win then should win reasonably comfortably
He was over 3 seconds quicker than Amos of Botswana, his main rival, and silver medalist in london, in the heats
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Rudisha only went favourite for the event after the heats. Amos was rightful favourite before that as he soundly beat rudisha in the last meeting.
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Quote from: TightEnd on July 30, 2014, 07:45:12 PM
Quote from: stribling on July 30, 2014, 07:37:40 PM
Why is Radisha @ 1.57. Seems huge odds. Isn't he far beyond everyone. Injuries?
Just back from injury, but on the basis of his heat and improvement from his recent diamond league win then should win reasonably comfortably
He was over 3 seconds quicker than Amos of Botswana, his main rival, and silver medalist in london, in the heats
Times arent relevant as rudisha front runs so his heat will always be faster.
It would be like comparing kingman to frankel based on todays times.
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what did Ginger jump to win gold in the long jump?
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Quote from: arbboy on July 30, 2014, 09:25:15 PM
what did Ginger jump to win gold in the long jump?
8.20m I think
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Quote from: arbboy on July 30, 2014, 09:25:15 PM
what did Ginger jump to win gold in the long jump?
8.20m I think
Joke. I remember when 8.20 didn't even get you in the final of major long jumping events 20 years ago. The event is a shadow of the old days.
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Quote from: icles test on July 30, 2014, 09:27:29 PM
Quote from: arbboy on July 30, 2014, 09:25:15 PM
what did Ginger jump to win gold in the long jump?
8.20m I think
Joke. I remember when 8.20 didn't even get you in the final of major long jumping events 20 years ago. The event is a shadow of the old days.
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