2014-15 NFL Discussion thread

[TightEnd]

Cowboys NFC not AFC

The number one seed is not really up for grabs, they need to win and Seattle/Arizona both to lose

I expect them to be resting players from early in the game..try and get a bye week into Romo, Murray etc

wouldn't be backing them giving away points this weekend. its a fierce rivalry and the redskins will be up for it too

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play point spreads not outrights, good way to take a view on a dog covering etc rather than taking cramped money lines on favourites

[AdamM]

sorry, yes, NFC

I know betting seems to be very much on points spread, but as a novice, just looking to learn who's good and who's not, match betting has been easier to get my head round.

Maybe next year I 'll be more confident to dip my toes into that.

Not even too worried about profit/loss this season. Just using the betting to "make it interesting" while I learn

[AdamM]

Do you still think Cowboys will get the W?

[Tal]

sorry, yes, NFC

I know betting seems to be very much on points spread, but as a novice, just looking to learn who's good and who's not, match betting has been easier to get my head round.

Maybe next year I 'll be more confident to dip my toes into that.

Not even too worried about profit/loss this season. Just using the betting to "make it interesting" while I learn

I think this is a good idea personally. As mug puntery as it seems, getting a return on a few 4/7 shots winning is nice, while you're learning about the sport.

Fantasy league next season?

[AdamM]

gods no, I'm miles away from that. Have been lurking to pick up info, but wouldn't dream of taking a stab at it yet.

It has been satisfying on my winning weeks, and even losing weeks have been max 2 -4 wrong.
towards the season I'd started going for top 3-5 results, plus a full coupon for fun. only missed out by 2 from 15 one week for about £800

seem to have missed Packers (H) beat Lions off that lot.
Happy to put that in the late bunch.

[vegaslover]

Do you still think Cowboys will get the W?

Not to an extent that I would be betting on it. My mates a diehard skins fan and this game is as acrimonious as it gets in NFL.
Skins really need to put a performance in as a few of em need to justify their place/contract for next year imo.

Would expect Cowboys to rest players to as more important games to come

[Ironside]

gods no, I'm miles away from that. Have been lurking to pick up info, but wouldn't dream of taking a stab at it yet.

It has been satisfying on my winning weeks, and even losing weeks have been max 2 -4 wrong.
towards the season I'd started going for top 3-5 results, plus a full coupon for fun. only missed out by 2 from 15 one week for about £800

seem to have missed Packers (H) beat Lions off that lot.
Happy to put that in the late bunch.

my first real season watching the nfl was made more enjoyable with fantasy league after a cpl of games you will feel like a veteran

[TightEnd]

PRO BOWL

Offense

Quarterback: Tom Brady, Patriots; Andrew Luck, Colts; Peyton Manning, Broncos; Aaron Rodgers, Packers; Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers; Tony Romo, Cowboys.

Running back: Le'Veon Bell, Steelers; Jamaal Charles, Chiefs; Arian Foster, Texans; Marshawn Lynch, Seahawks; LeSean McCoy, Eagles; DeMarco Murray, Cowboys.

Wide receiver: Antonio Brown, Steelers; Dez Bryant, Cowboys; A.J. Green, Bengals; T.Y. Hilton, Colts; Calvin Johnson, Lions; Julio Jones, Falcons; Jordy Nelson, Packers; Demaryius Thomas, Broncos.

Tight end: Jimmy Graham, Saints; Rob Gronkowski, Patriots; Greg Olsen, Panthers; Julius Thomas, Broncos.

Fullback: John Kuhn, Packers; Marcel Reece, Raiders.

Tackles: Ryan Clady, Broncos; Jason Peters, Eagles; Tyron Smith, Cowboys; Joe Staley, 49ers; Joe Thomas, Browns; Trent Williams, Redskins.

Guard: Jahri Evans, Saints; Mike Iupati, 49ers; Kyle Long, Bears; Zack Martin, Cowboys; Josh Sitton, Packers; Marshal Yanda, Ravens.

Center: Travis Frederick, Cowboys; Jason Kelce, Eagles; Nick Mangold, Jets; Maurkice Pouncey, Steelers.

Defense

Defensive end: Calais Campbell, Cardinals; Robert Quinn, Rams; Cameron Wake, Dolphins; DeMarcus Ware, Broncos; J.J. Watt, Texans; Mario Williams, Bills.

Interior linemen: Marcell Dareus, Bills; Aaron Donald, Rams; Gerald McCoy, Buccaneers; Dontari Poe, Chiefs; Ndamukong Suh, Lions; Kyle Williams, Bills.

Outside linebacker: Connor Barwin, Eagles; Elvis Dumervil, Ravens; Tamba Hali, Chiefs; Justin Houston, Chiefs; Clay Matthews, Packers; Von Miller, Broncos.

Inside linebacker: Luke Kuechly, Panthers; C.J. Mosley, Ravens; Lawrence, Timmons, Steelers; Bobby Wagner, Seahawks.

Cornerback: Vontae Davis, Colts; Brent Grimes, Dolphins; Joe Haden, Browns; Chris Harris, Broncos; Patrick Peterson, Cardinals; Darrelle Revis, Patriots; Richard Sherman, Seahawks; Aqib Talib, Broncos.

Free safety: Tashaun Gipson, Browns; Glover Quin, Lions; Earl Thomas, Seahawks; Eric Weddle, Chargers.

Strong safety: Kam Chancellor, Seahawks; T.J. Ward, Broncos.

Special Teams

Punter: Kevin Huber, Bengals; Pat McAfee, Colts.

Placekicker: Stephen Gostkowski, Patriots; Adam Vinatieri, Colts.

Return specialist: Devin Hester, Falcons; Darren Sproles, Eagles.

Special teamer: Justin Bethel, Cardinals; Matthew Slater, Patriots.

[Stopsleyhatter]

Any suprise exclusion on people's teams? As a Bengal I expected Andrew Whitworth at left tackle and Pacman Jones on punt/kick returns.

[Tal]

Johnny Highlight Reel Heller on punts.

[Marky147]

Super Aaron Donald!

[Evilpengwinz]

Any suprise exclusion on people's teams? As a Bengal I expected Andrew Whitworth at left tackle and Pacman Jones on punt/kick returns.

Raiders fan, only Khalil Mack here, although not really a surprise because his stats don't reflect how well he's played and he suffers from being on a poor team that doesn't get the same exposure (We only played on TNF once vs. KC). If it was 100% based on performance, and if he wasn't playing on a team that is currently 3-12, then he'd be there IMO.

Biggest surprises for me are Dan Bailey, Johnny Hekker, and the Baltimore Full Back whose name I'm not even going to try to spell missing out.

Would've gone with Wilson over Luck as the 6th QB. Sen'Derrick Marks deserves an honourable mention but not sure who he replaces, also has the same problem as Khalil Mack of playing on a bad team. However, being on a 3-12 team that isn't going to get as many opportunities to pass rush makes his 8.5 sacks even more impressive for an Defensive Tackle.

By far the biggest surprise inclusion for me is Jimmy Graham, who got in for no other reason than because he's Jimmy Graham. Think Antonio Gates should be there instead but Travis Kelce and Zach Ertz both impressed me more this year, too.

[Ironside]

Any suprise exclusion on people's teams? As a Bengal I expected Andrew Whitworth at left tackle and Pacman Jones on punt/kick returns.

Raiders fan, only Khalil Mack here, although not really a surprise because his stats don't reflect how well he's played and he suffers from being on a poor team that doesn't get the same exposure (We only played on TNF once vs. KC). If it was 100% based on performance, and if he wasn't playing on a team that is currently 3-12, then he'd be there IMO.

Biggest surprises for me are Dan Bailey, Johnny Hekker, and the Baltimore Full Back whose name I'm not even going to try to spell missing out.

Would've gone with Wilson over Luck as the 6th QB. Sen'Derrick Marks deserves an honourable mention but not sure who he replaces, also has the same problem as Khalil Mack of playing on a bad team. However, being on a 3-12 team that isn't going to get as many opportunities to pass rush makes his 8.5 sacks even more impressive for an Defensive Tackle.

By far the biggest surprise inclusion for me is Jimmy Graham, who got in for no other reason than because he's Jimmy Graham. Think Antonio Gates should be there instead but Travis Kelce and Zach Ertz both impressed me more this year, too.

u sure about ertz?

[The Camel]

Any suprise exclusion on people's teams? As a Bengal I expected Andrew Whitworth at left tackle and Pacman Jones on punt/kick returns.

Raiders fan, only Khalil Mack here, although not really a surprise because his stats don't reflect how well he's played and he suffers from being on a poor team that doesn't get the same exposure (We only played on TNF once vs. KC). If it was 100% based on performance, and if he wasn't playing on a team that is currently 3-12, then he'd be there IMO.

Biggest surprises for me are Dan Bailey, Johnny Hekker, and the Baltimore Full Back whose name I'm not even going to try to spell missing out.

Would've gone with Wilson over Luck as the 6th QB. Sen'Derrick Marks deserves an honourable mention but not sure who he replaces, also has the same problem as Khalil Mack of playing on a bad team. However, being on a 3-12 team that isn't going to get as many opportunities to pass rush makes his 8.5 sacks even more impressive for an Defensive Tackle.

By far the biggest surprise inclusion for me is Jimmy Graham, who got in for no other reason than because he's Jimmy Graham. Think Antonio Gates should be there instead but Travis Kelce and Zach Ertz both impressed me more this year, too.

Travis Kelce can gfto.

Fumbles in different games cost me about 5 grand.

Confirmed butterfingers.

[Tal]

Any suprise exclusion on people's teams? As a Bengal I expected Andrew Whitworth at left tackle and Pacman Jones on punt/kick returns.

Raiders fan, only Khalil Mack here, although not really a surprise because his stats don't reflect how well he's played and he suffers from being on a poor team that doesn't get the same exposure (We only played on TNF once vs. KC). If it was 100% based on performance, and if he wasn't playing on a team that is currently 3-12, then he'd be there IMO.

Biggest surprises for me are Dan Bailey, Johnny Hekker, and the Baltimore Full Back whose name I'm not even going to try to spell missing out.

Would've gone with Wilson over Luck as the 6th QB. Sen'Derrick Marks deserves an honourable mention but not sure who he replaces, also has the same problem as Khalil Mack of playing on a bad team. However, being on a 3-12 team that isn't going to get as many opportunities to pass rush makes his 8.5 sacks even more impressive for an Defensive Tackle.

By far the biggest surprise inclusion for me is Jimmy Graham, who got in for no other reason than because he's Jimmy Graham. Think Antonio Gates should be there instead but Travis Kelce and Zach Ertz both impressed me more this year, too.

Travis Kelce can gfto.

Fumbles in different games cost me about 5 grand.

Confirmed butterfingers.

First thought was Heath Miller. Just had a look at Football Outsiders (my new favourite website this year - is there an equivalent in Association Football?)

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/te

Incredibly, the best tight ends for the two main opponent-adjusted rankings the site uses are the two Pats TEs.