UK General Election 2015

[TightEnd]

shock and awe

[The Camel]

It wasn´t me who lost, I can live in any country in the world, although there aren´t many better than Britain....but I'm afraid for the vulnerable elements of society. that´s really genuine, I´d hate to be poor or disabled or seriously unwell if you are, (in Britain) today was the worst day of your life

I managed to get a couple horses beat that traded <1.1 today, but other than that I thought today went alright...

You'll have me phoning the samaritans with posts like that :/

Yes, it's all got very drama queen, hasn't it?

Jaffa went to Chester on Friday and wanted some help, and he will confirm, it was a very very good day all round. But I digress.

You and camel seem to remember a time when Florence Nightingale and Mother Teresa ran the country, doing all this wonderful stuff for the poor and needy.

I don't remember that era, and you are more gullible than I thought if you believed a Labour government was going to be the dawn of that era!

Kinda of fitting that you managed to squeeze in some horse racing after timing into this thread, just you like you do every other.

You are the worst sort of troll, you added nothing of any substance to this thread before the election yet you've been here non stop ever since the result was known, jeering, sneering and baiting anyone who doesn't agree with your right wing dogma.

I'm done with you.

I will not be responding any of your pathetic jibes ever again.

[BigAdz]

It wasn´t me who lost, I can live in any country in the world, although there aren´t many better than Britain....but I'm afraid for the vulnerable elements of society. that´s really genuine, I´d hate to be poor or disabled or seriously unwell if you are, (in Britain) today was the worst day of your life

I managed to get a couple horses beat that traded <1.1 today, but other than that I thought today went alright...

You'll have me phoning the samaritans with posts like that :/

Yes, it's all got very drama queen, hasn't it?

Jaffa went to Chester on Friday and wanted some help, and he will confirm, it was a very very good day all round. But I digress.

You and camel seem to remember a time when Florence Nightingale and Mother Teresa ran the country, doing all this wonderful stuff for the poor and needy.

I don't remember that era, and you are more gullible than I thought if you believed a Labour government was going to be the dawn of that era!

Kinda of fitting that you managed to squeeze in some horse racing after timing into this thread, just you like you do every other.

You are the worst sort of troll, you added nothing of any substance to this thread before the election yet you've been here non stop ever since the result was known, jeering, sneering and baiting anyone who doesn't agree with your right wing dogma.

I'm done with you.

I will not be responding any of your pathetic jibes ever again.

Oh dear.

You have seriously lost the plot Keith.

Because I have a different view to you on this subject I am a troll. How very grown up. How about not acting like a child every time someone here disagrees with you? Calling people trolls is the sort of thing I expect of your someone your sons age.

Its very sad that you dredge up the same old anti-Adz language, add nothing, baiting etc. I have many many Pms from Blondes that disagree. I even have one from you that said I am one of your favourite posters. Ironic huh, I suppose I must have agreed with all you said at that point.

As someone that people look up to on here, I expect better. Is this sort of post supposed to bully or shame me from Blonde?

I have been contributing to this thread from the get go. I also am one of the few that has understood and taken on board both sides of the argument.

I'm very sorry that Labour lost for you Keith but show a little class please.

[vegaslover]

Watched bbc QT yesterday. Was really interesting- a question from the audience

"why have the Tories taken all the credit for the coalition whilst the Lib Dems seemed to have paid for its failures?"

Two issues spring to mind-

Lib Dems doing the dirty and joining the tories
Student fees

Be interesting to see in 5 years time to see if traditional Lib Dem voters return to their party. Where did the lib dem vote actually go? To the Tories? Wouldn't that negate point one?

Also thought Paddy Ashdown came across very well. They could do with him back in the House!

Don't know about Nationally but in my neck of the woods it went to UKIP. The lib dems were expected to piss it in my constituency, they actually lost by 700 votes to the Tory's. UKIP got 6k votes, mostly from under 35s looking at social media postings

[MintTrav]

Under-25s turnout:

2005:  38%
2010:  52%
2015:  58%

[George2Loose]

Ukip vote to go down significantly because of the euro referendum? Also no one has mentioned this but with boundary changes the House of Commons will go down from 650 to 600 MPs with the change set to favour the Tories

[TightEnd]

Ukip vote to go down significantly because of the euro referendum? Also no one has mentioned this but with boundary changes the House of Commons will go down from 650 to 600 MPs with the change set to favour the Tories

what goes around comes around

blair's boundary changes meant that on equal vote shares the Conservatives had a 25-30 seat disadvantage

there is little logic to current constituency sizes, and the boundary change system can be gamed by any party with a majority, unfortunately

[The Camel]

Ukip vote to go down significantly because of the euro referendum? Also no one has mentioned this but with boundary changes the House of Commons will go down from 650 to 600 MPs with the change set to favour the Tories

Assuming we stay in Europe after the referendum (not a given obviously) it will be interesting to see what happens to the UKIP vote.

Might react like the SNP vote after the indy ref!

Assuming anything in politics is obviously a dangerous game these days!

[TightEnd]

This is a good way of explaining how the elction was won (sorry for the scrunched up paper)

broader the wavy line, the more seats are moving from one party to another

only 16 seats total went lab to con or con to lab

labour lost 40 to snp

majority of lib dem losses went to conservative..hesitant to vote labour they (especially midlands and south) pragmatically voted Conservative

the lib dem switchers told pollsters they’d vote labour but actually didn’t

Click to see full-size image.

[redsimon]

Don't know if the Lib Dems deserters were being "pragmatic"? Weren't most Lib Dems seats Lib Dem/Cons seats so collapse in Lib Dem vote meant they'd go Blue?

[TightEnd]

Don't know if the Lib Dems deserters were being "pragmatic"? Weren't most Lib Dems seats Lib Dem/Cons seats so collapse in Lib Dem vote meant they'd go Blue?

but the collapse in lib dem vote did not go to labour. con vote shares in these seats went up

as left leaning parties you would expect lib dem people wanting to punish lib dem for going onto coalition to move to labour, yes?

no evidence they did. pragmatic, tactical, hesitant, untrusting? any of those?

[The Camel]

According to the chart some votes went from Sinn Fein to the UUP

That laughable deduction must put into doubt all the conclusions it draws.

[TightEnd]

According to the chart some votes went from Sinn Fein to the UUP

That laughable deduction must put into doubt all the conclusions it draws.

its not votes its seats, tracking the seats won and lost

Sinn Fein did lose a seat to the UUP

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-northern-ireland-32629703

[The Camel]

According to the chart some votes went from Sinn Fein to the UUP

That laughable deduction must put into doubt all the conclusions it draws.

its not votes its seats, tracking the seats won and lost

Sinn Fein did lose a seat to the UUP

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-northern-ireland-32629703

Oh, I see.

Votes would be far more interesting than seats, but almost impossible to deduce.

The idea some people switched from Labour or Lib Dem to UKIP is just incredible.

These people don't deserve the privilige of universal suffrage.

Con to UKIP fine.

BNP to UKIP apt.

Abstain to UKIP makes sense.

Lab or Lib to UKIP WTF?

[TightEnd]

According to the chart some votes went from Sinn Fein to the UUP

That laughable deduction must put into doubt all the conclusions it draws.

its not votes its seats, tracking the seats won and lost

Sinn Fein did lose a seat to the UUP

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-northern-ireland-32629703

Oh, I see.

Votes would be far more interesting than seats, but almost impossible to deduce.

The idea some people switched from Labour or Lib Dem to UKIP is just incredible.

These people don't deserve the privilige of universal suffrage.

Con to UKIP fine.

BNP to UKIP apt.

Abstain to UKIP makes sense.

Lab or Lib to UKIP WTF?

this may help

7-11% of 2010 Lab and LD voters went UKIP this time