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Question: I will be voting for the following in the General election  (Voting closed: May 10, 2015, 02:10:42 PM)
Conservative - 41 (40.6%)
Labour - 20 (19.8%)
Liberal Democrat - 6 (5.9%)
SNP - 9 (8.9%)
UKIP - 3 (3%)
Green - 7 (6.9%)
Other - 3 (3%)
I will not be voting - 12 (11.9%)
Total Voters: 100

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« Reply #2295 on: August 11, 2015, 04:40:25 PM »

Not only all that, but I've seen Werther's Originals on buy One Get One Half Price offer in Tesco - these old folk have it pretty sweet.
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« Reply #2296 on: August 11, 2015, 04:58:22 PM »

A man with policies and ideas appears to be more popular than the others whose sole policy is "well i am not Corbyn"

Great to see someone so passionate getting close to having a position of influence, appreciate that does not sit well with most of the views on here.
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« Reply #2297 on: August 11, 2015, 05:26:21 PM »

A man with policies and ideas appears to be more popular than the others whose sole policy is "well i am not Corbyn"

Great to see someone so passionate getting close to having a position of influence, appreciate that does not sit well with most of the views on here.

Pretty certain I disagree with everything he has ever said, but I personally hope he becomes Labour leader. It's good to have the big ideas challenged and the boat rocked, and he will certainly do that. Much rather have someone I disagree with but trust he is saying what he really means, than a flip flopper.

Of course you could argue the same thing about Donald Trump.
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« Reply #2298 on: August 12, 2015, 12:43:29 PM »

thought this was a good read

Peston on Corbynomics

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33884836
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« Reply #2299 on: August 12, 2015, 12:50:32 PM »

First balanced view I have read

Good stuff that
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« Reply #2300 on: August 12, 2015, 02:22:58 PM »

It's interesting how Corbyn's rise has mirrored that of the Socialist Bernie Sanders, who has also been a fringe voice in Congress for ever, but has grown from being a joke candidate for the Democratic nomination on 5% a few months ago to being a real threat to the Clinton coronation.


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« Reply #2301 on: August 12, 2015, 04:44:25 PM »

Is there a chance that a Corbyn win could see a SDP II being created? Or a separate New Labour II?
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« Reply #2302 on: August 12, 2015, 04:53:05 PM »

Is there a chance that a Corbyn win could see a SDP II being created? Or a separate New Labour II?

It could be argued there are four natural groupings in English politics - UKIP/Tory Right, One Nation Tories/Orange Book Liberals, Rest of the Liberals/New Labour, Actual Socialists.

It would really need a split in both Labour and Conservatives to happen at the same time for this to happen, as otherwise the first to split is doomed to opposition.
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« Reply #2303 on: August 12, 2015, 05:13:19 PM »

Is there a chance that a Corbyn win could see a SDP II being created? Or a separate New Labour II?

It could be argued there are four natural groupings in English politics - UKIP/Tory Right, One Nation Tories/Orange Book Liberals, Rest of the Liberals/New Labour, Actual Socialists.

It would really need a split in both Labour and Conservatives to happen at the same time for this to happen, as otherwise the first to split is doomed to opposition.

A coalition between UKIP/Tory Right and Actual Socialists would make a cracking 1980s odd couple sitcom.
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« Reply #2304 on: August 12, 2015, 05:22:56 PM »

Is there a chance that a Corbyn win could see a SDP II being created? Or a separate New Labour II?

It could be argued there are four natural groupings in English politics - UKIP/Tory Right, One Nation Tories/Orange Book Liberals, Rest of the Liberals/New Labour, Actual Socialists.

It would really need a split in both Labour and Conservatives to happen at the same time for this to happen, as otherwise the first to split is doomed to opposition.

A coalition between UKIP/Tory Right and Actual Socialists would make a cracking 1980s odd couple sitcom.

Someone needs to photoshop in Farage and Corbyn's heads onto Steptoe & Son.
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« Reply #2305 on: August 12, 2015, 08:44:27 PM »

Blair: 'With Corbyn as leader it won’t be a defeat like 1983 or 2015 at the next election. It will mean annihilation'


        'The public will seek to punish us. They will see themselves as victims not only of the Tory government but of our self-indulgence.'


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/12/even-if-hate-me-dont-take-labour-over-cliff-edge-tony-blair

The comments section is pure gold. absolutley fantastic read

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« Reply #2306 on: August 12, 2015, 11:11:19 PM »

Tories, make sure you pay your 3 quid to be a labour member so we can vote this idiot in, guarantees us an extra 5 years in power.... 
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« Reply #2307 on: August 12, 2015, 11:57:10 PM »

Blair speaking again tonight.....the end is nigh
The other 3 writing as one to complain to labour about the election procedure.
Big speech tomorrow from Cooper attacking Jezza.
Will Liz drop out to try to help save the party?

Will he really be allowed to win??

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« Reply #2308 on: August 13, 2015, 04:15:10 AM »

If Corbyn gets in surely would be a good bet that he doesn't make it as leader to the next election? Some sort of no confidence vote would be invoked at some point?
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« Reply #2309 on: August 13, 2015, 08:50:32 AM »

What is austerity?

http://chokkablog.blogspot.co.uk/search?updated-min=2015-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2016-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=29

One conclusion appears to be that a political parties prospective policies have limited correlation to their bluster about their eliminating austerity.
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