The Paedophile Hunter.

[The Camel]

Having said all that if anyone laid a finger on Jake, I swear I wouldn't be able to control my myself in response.

Being a father makes for an interesting clash of emotions as a pinko liberal wet.

how would you feel in a few years time when he was 15/16 if he came home bragging about having a threesome with 2 women in the late 20s early 30s?

This is the thing i would guess the vast majority of dads would say quietly without mum hearing 'wp gg son' whereas if it was a daughter they would go mental.  That's just society for you.

And what if the lad was gay and it's 2 older blokes? A different reaction by most I would suggest...

I'd be furious.

[arbboy]

That's fair enough Camel but i would imagine a lot of dad's would quietly think it was ok for his son to have a bit of fun with two older birds (far more so than the other way around)

[Woodsey]

That's fair enough Camel but i would imagine a lot of dad's would quietly think it was ok for his son to have a bit of fun with two older birds (far more so than the other way around)

Which one of us wouldn't have given our right arm for a punt lol. 

[BigAdz]

Having said all that if anyone laid a finger on Jake, I swear I wouldn't be able to control my myself in response.

Being a father makes for an interesting clash of emotions as a pinko liberal wet.

To be honest Keith, much as I admire you, that is the problem with so many issues in this country/the world.

Too many people have a watered down attitude to justice, maybe because so many bad things happen/or they never see it happening to them, but if it does happen to them or on their doorstep, its a whole different kettle of fish.

I think before people think "that's a bit harsh" "human rights" blah blah, "the what if it happened to me" test should be applied.

Sure we would get some different attitudes and laws then.

Or I hope we would, anyway.

[The Camel]

That's fair enough Camel but i would imagine a lot of dad's would quietly think it was ok for his son to have a bit of fun with two older birds (far more so than the other way around)

15/early 16 I think an adult shouldn't be touching a child.

Late 16/17 I wouldn't be so bothered unless it was with a teacher.

I don't think teacher/pupil relationships are ever acceptable. Even if the pupil is 18+

Far too easy for the teacher to be exploiting someone they should be responsible for.

[arbboy]

That's fair enough Camel but i would imagine a lot of dad's would quietly think it was ok for his son to have a bit of fun with two older birds (far more so than the other way around)

15/early 16 I think an adult shouldn't be touching a child.

Late 16/17 I wouldn't be so bothered unless it was with a teacher.

I don't think teacher/pupil relationships are ever acceptable. Even if the pupil is 18+

Far too easy for the teacher to be exploiting someone they should be responsible for.

What about a male teacher who is 22 straight out of uni dating a girl in the upper sixth who is 18 and a half by the summer of her alevels who he doesn't teach directly in any class at the school but just happens to teach at the same school as her?

Then the same example but the male teacher teaches at a different school in the same town?  

In both situations they met legally in a bar/club in said town at the weekend

The reason i ask was this happened to a friend of my at uni in 1997.  He started dating a girl in the upper sixth who was attending a different school to the one he taught in in the same town.

[The Camel]

Having said all that if anyone laid a finger on Jake, I swear I wouldn't be able to control my myself in response.

Being a father makes for an interesting clash of emotions as a pinko liberal wet.

To be honest Keith, much as I admire you, that is the problem with so many issues in this country/the world.

Too many people have a watered down attitude to justice, maybe because so many bad things happen/or they never see it happening to them, but if it does happen to them or on their doorstep, its a whole different kettle of fish.

I think before people think "that's a bit harsh" "human rights" blah blah, "the what if it happened to me" test should be applied.

Sure we would get some different attitudes and laws then.

Or I hope we would, anyway.

I'm as certain as I could be if someone murdered a loved one I still would be against the death penalty.

Paedophilia is different - brings out the rawest of emotions.

But that is why I don't think victims and victims families should ever have any say on punishment for the perpetrator.

[The Camel]

That's fair enough Camel but i would imagine a lot of dad's would quietly think it was ok for his son to have a bit of fun with two older birds (far more so than the other way around)

15/early 16 I think an adult shouldn't be touching a child.

Late 16/17 I wouldn't be so bothered unless it was with a teacher.

I don't think teacher/pupil relationships are ever acceptable. Even if the pupil is 18+

Far too easy for the teacher to be exploiting someone they should be responsible for.

What about a male teacher who is 22 straight out of uni dating a girl in the upper sixth who is 18 and a half by the summer of her alevels who he doesn't teach directly in any class at the school but just happens to teach at the same school as her?

Then the same example but the male teacher teaches at a different school in the same town?  

In both situations they met legally in a bar/club in said town at the weekend

I'm talking about a teacher who actually teaches the pupil. In your case it would be cool.

A female friend of mine was married to a University lecturer

They were in their 40s when he left her for a 19 year old student he was tutoring.

Disgusting betrayal of his responsibilities IMO

[Doobs]

John Peel in his book blithely mentions he had an affair with a 15 year old girl when he was in his 30s.

When all the Savile stuff came out one of the newspapers tracked her down.

She was absolutely fine with it all these years later

But it is still the responsibility of the adult to restrain themselves.

But whether they are nonces as the majority of viewers of yesterday's programme seemed to believe is very doubtful IMO.

John Peel married a 15 year old.  I think there is something seriously wrong with a 30 year old and a 14 year old girl and don't think it is a grey area at all.  Grey areas are when the boy is 16 and the girl 14 or vice versa.  I'd likely find a prosecution ridiculous in those cases.

It is funny that we are conditioned a bit by wear we are born. I remember seeing a 2 plus 2 where they were discussing some 16 year old (can't remember who).  There was a real clash between those born in countries/ states where the age of consent is 16 and those where it is 18.  Half of Europe will be like Wtf is wrong with 15?  Despite that the 30/14 thing should be wrong everywhere.

Am kind if hopeful I will let most of the mistakes my daughters make just go.  We all did them in our youth.

[Omm]

Watched some of the clips on YouTube, got to give the guy and his team credit for having the balls to challenge the guys in this way. Hopefully the documentary will explain why he decided to start this "campaign".

On a similar point I thought about this subject a lot recently after a conversation a had at Luton. Some guys were talking about a vicar that played at the casino regularly, who had been named in the local paper as being found guilty of "obscene conversations with Children", on enquiring who it was I googled him to see if I knew him, the picture that came up confirmed I (and many others as he was a regular) had played with this guy quite a lot ( even after he had been charged and suspended from work, which of course nobody knew at the time). One of the guys at the table was very irate about the whole thing, particularly as he had tried to get back into the casino after he had been banned (I'm presuming for his own safety as well as for the benefit of the rest of the customers). I actually felt quite numb about the whole situation, he was a normal guy, no reason to think any different, I distinctly remember him talking to a very attractive masseuse a lot, I remember thinking he must have no chance with her. All the while portraying a life similar to most of us, yet lurking in this underworld of vile intentions. Since been wondering what he would have said had he been challenge about this at the table.

Got sentenced to 2 years today.

I'd imagine you would have played at the same tables as this guy quite a few times Vinny? Glad to hear he got a custodial sentence, all still feels a bit strange that he carried on coming to the casino after he had been charged and suspended from work. Quite a few of the guys were very upset about the whole thing, can't imagine what would have happened if rumours were to have started while he was still playing (nearly every night as far as I know)

[The Camel]

Watched some of the clips on YouTube, got to give the guy and his team credit for having the balls to challenge the guys in this way. Hopefully the documentary will explain why he decided to start this "campaign".

On a similar point I thought about this subject a lot recently after a conversation a had at Luton. Some guys were talking about a vicar that played at the casino regularly, who had been named in the local paper as being found guilty of "obscene conversations with Children", on enquiring who it was I googled him to see if I knew him, the picture that came up confirmed I (and many others as he was a regular) had played with this guy quite a lot ( even after he had been charged and suspended from work, which of course nobody knew at the time). One of the guys at the table was very irate about the whole thing, particularly as he had tried to get back into the casino after he had been banned (I'm presuming for his own safety as well as for the benefit of the rest of the customers). I actually felt quite numb about the whole situation, he was a normal guy, no reason to think any different, I distinctly remember him talking to a very attractive masseuse a lot, I remember thinking he must have no chance with her. All the while portraying a life similar to most of us, yet lurking in this underworld of vile intentions. Since been wondering what he would have said had he been challenge about this at the table.

Got sentenced to 2 years today.

I'd imagine you would have played at the same tables as this guy quite a few times Vinny? Glad to hear he got a custodial sentence, all still feels a bit strange that he carried on coming to the casino after he had been charged and suspended from work. Quite a few of the guys were very upset about the whole thing, can't imagine what would have happened if rumours were to have started while he was still playing (nearly every night as far as I know)

This is what I mean about paedos.

To my knowledge I have played poker with 3 murderers and no one really gives a damn.

A guy who didn't even commit a crime which involved physical contact with a child is completely reviled.

These crimes are different to any other.

[arbboy]

Watched some of the clips on YouTube, got to give the guy and his team credit for having the balls to challenge the guys in this way. Hopefully the documentary will explain why he decided to start this "campaign".

On a similar point I thought about this subject a lot recently after a conversation a had at Luton. Some guys were talking about a vicar that played at the casino regularly, who had been named in the local paper as being found guilty of "obscene conversations with Children", on enquiring who it was I googled him to see if I knew him, the picture that came up confirmed I (and many others as he was a regular) had played with this guy quite a lot ( even after he had been charged and suspended from work, which of course nobody knew at the time). One of the guys at the table was very irate about the whole thing, particularly as he had tried to get back into the casino after he had been banned (I'm presuming for his own safety as well as for the benefit of the rest of the customers). I actually felt quite numb about the whole situation, he was a normal guy, no reason to think any different, I distinctly remember him talking to a very attractive masseuse a lot, I remember thinking he must have no chance with her. All the while portraying a life similar to most of us, yet lurking in this underworld of vile intentions. Since been wondering what he would have said had he been challenge about this at the table.

Got sentenced to 2 years today.

I'd imagine you would have played at the same tables as this guy quite a few times Vinny? Glad to hear he got a custodial sentence, all still feels a bit strange that he carried on coming to the casino after he had been charged and suspended from work. Quite a few of the guys were very upset about the whole thing, can't imagine what would have happened if rumours were to have started while he was still playing (nearly every night as far as I know)

This is what I mean about paedos.

To my knowledge I have played poker with 3 murderers and no one really gives a damn.

A guy who didn't even commit a crime which involved physical contact with a child is completely reviled.

These crimes are different to any other.

dtd online sat reg went down for several years a few moths ago for similar.  It does feel quite weird knowing you have sat next to the guy numerous times.  I was shocked when someone told me and showed me a link to the news story on their ipad when i asked if anyone had seen him as i hadn't seen him in the sats and/or live at the club for a while.

[kinboshi]

Obviously a different thing, but with 1 in 4 women being victims of domestic violence and many from sexual assault, how many men who you sit alongside at the poker table beat their wives and girlfriends.  A frighteningly high number.

[Woodsey]

Obviously a different thing, but with 1 in 4 women being victims of domestic violence and many from sexual assault, how many men who you sit alongside at the poker table beat their wives and girlfriends.  A frighteningly high number.

Don't know why the focus is always on women, the figure is not far from that for blokes also.

[kinboshi]

Obviously a different thing, but with 1 in 4 women being victims of domestic violence and many from sexual assault, how many men who you sit alongside at the poker table beat their wives and girlfriends.  A frighteningly high number.

Don't know why the focus is always on women, the figure is not far from that for blokes also.

The figures are VERY different.  The 1 in 4 women and 1 in 6 for men doesn't include the frequency or severity of the violence.  A woman is killed every three days as a result of domestic violence.  How many men?  How many men are raped by their partners on a regular basis.

Did you know that on average women only contact the police after they have been assaulted over 30 times?

That's why the focus is on women being the victims, because a massive percentage of the time, they are.