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« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2015, 06:35:12 PM » |
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Double returns £80
Treble offers cash out at £110 after two legs.
I've always been wired that if you're being offered a product in an advert by a bookie, it's costing you money. I'm just trying to square this, though.
you have an even money treble. first 2 legs win at evens and evens. Your £20 treble is now effectively £80 running onto the last even money shot. Why would a bookmaker ever offer you £110 for the bet at this stage? He is effectively backing the last even money shot himself at 4/9 for £110 to win £50? Yes, sorry, arb. Changed the third one to a big odds on shot because I spotted the error. As Mr Hollis says above, the offer wouldn't be for more than the £80 anyway. Might be why I have working accounts (don't tell Chompy) |
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« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2015, 06:56:35 PM » |
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Expanding on Tal's idea a little.
Some books offer a bonus for 4 folds/ 5 folds etc..
I wonder if putting in a fake final leg in this spot might add to the cash out offer?
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« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2015, 06:57:57 PM » |
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Expanding on Tal's idea a little.
Some books offer a bonus for 4 folds/ 5 folds etc..
I wonder if putting in a fake final leg in this spot might add to the cash out offer?
Would imagine the bonus would only be added once the legs were actually settled as results. ie early cash out would mean they were not added. |
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« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2015, 07:11:30 PM » |
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Wouldn't even be considered at all.
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« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2015, 07:39:37 PM » |
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I've never been in a position to cash out in the first place tbh
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« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2015, 08:10:02 PM » |
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If you are tanking the cash out for utility purposes (rather than a change in perceived value) you placed the wrong bet in the first place.
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« Reply #36 on: February 16, 2015, 08:38:26 PM » |
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Never used them. Have layed a single result in a multi start time accumulator. Was waiting on AC Milan and layed them at 1/20 after they went 1-0 up to take the hassle out.
My mate used it once waiting on west ham to draw. Took £100 for a £2000 bet at 2-0 down and they equalise in 94th minute. He shut his account in utter turmoil. Losing with 94th min goals doesn't cause that level of upset! I will never use them.
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« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2015, 08:44:41 PM » |
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I'll use sometimes for example if I have an acca that pays 300 and there's 10 mins left and it's offering me 280-300. Takes the sweat out of it and means you can now rail the other side for max pleasure. Happens rarely tho
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« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2015, 09:02:01 PM » |
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I'll use sometimes for example if I have an acca that pays 300 and there's 10 mins left and it's offering me 280-300. Takes the sweat out of it and means you can now rail the other side for max pleasure. Happens rarely tho
If it's offering you 280 for a 300 payout, I would guess you've got a circa 99.9% chance of winning the bet. You wouldn't flush £20 down the toilet, why give it to a horrible bookmaker? |
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« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2015, 09:58:33 PM » |
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Spending £1 to £20 to avoid the horrible feeling of losing the lot is understandable. I never use cashout personally, but often bet/lay myself into a guaranteed profit if it's some tournament tip I've followed from here.
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« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2015, 10:16:01 PM » |
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I've never been in a position to cash out in the first place tbh
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« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2015, 01:41:58 AM » |
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I'll use sometimes for example if I have an acca that pays 300 and there's 10 mins left and it's offering me 280-300. Takes the sweat out of it and means you can now rail the other side for max pleasure. Happens rarely tho
If it's offering you 280 for a 300 payout, I would guess you've got a circa 99.9% chance of winning the bet. You wouldn't flush £20 down the toilet, why give it to a horrible bookmaker? Because there are times when you can get screwed- would rather lock it up |
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« Reply #42 on: February 17, 2015, 08:49:32 AM » |
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I'll use sometimes for example if I have an acca that pays 300 and there's 10 mins left and it's offering me 280-300. Takes the sweat out of it and means you can now rail the other side for max pleasure. Happens rarely tho
If it's offering you 280 for a 300 payout, I would guess you've got a circa 99.9% chance of winning the bet. You wouldn't flush £20 down the toilet, why give it to a horrible bookmaker? How do you know the bookmaker is "horrible"? He might be a nice bookmaker. |
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« Reply #43 on: February 17, 2015, 11:03:23 PM » |
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I'll use sometimes for example if I have an acca that pays 300 and there's 10 mins left and it's offering me 280-300. Takes the sweat out of it and means you can now rail the other side for max pleasure. Happens rarely tho
If it's offering you 280 for a 300 payout, I would guess you've got a circa 99.9% chance of winning the bet. You wouldn't flush £20 down the toilet, why give it to a horrible bookmaker? How do you know the bookmaker is "horrible"? He might be a nice bookmaker. Never met one, although he/she might theoretically exist. |
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« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2015, 11:23:55 AM » |
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Did a 4 timer with WH.
3 came in last night, one match tonight.
Offer is £85.51....potential winnings is shown as £171.12
However the team odds to win on WH is 11/10.
So if I cash in and then put the £85.51 on at 11/10 .....I win more??!
Am I missing something?
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