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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2015, 02:04:34 AM »

really enjoying this mate, please keep posting.
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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2015, 02:39:15 AM »

Not had a chance to read but will soon. Love the concept. Great idea
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« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2015, 07:57:26 AM »


This should be well worth reading, thanks Alex.


 I had been in a private school bubble all my life, never even had friends who weren't from privileged backgrounds in England


All things considered, you've turned out pretty well, I'd say. That sort of upbringing does not always end well, or with a well balanced adult. Your parents must be incredibly proud.

"Church Youth Group". By choice, or wish? Do you still attend church, or was it just a phase you passed though?

I attended Church for around 8 years as a child, but only because I was forced to. I've never attended since, though more & more, I think I should. Not because I'm religious, but it just feels like something nagging away in my mind, essentially a good, or at least well-intended, thing. Spending too long in Casinos or playing poker online just feels like it needs some balance.   

It was all because of music. I was in the church choir from ages 8 or something until my voice broke at 13/14. I was head chorister at the time. It was never about the religious side of it, I've always loved church music, so no it was not a phase. I only go at Christmas now, but still listen to the music and enjoy it with my family.

Interesting angle about the upbringing. You make it sound like my parents must be proud of me to have come through that upbringing and still be alright! I think they would think of it as the opposite! I jolly well should be alright given they upbringing I had!


There's so many hidden things that private school has given me, it goes way beyond the grades. But without some perspective at some point in your life, you will struggle in many situations in the real world I think. Many of my peers will have never even experienced that yet though. Straight from school -> Oxbridge -> London being a city banker, they may coast through life without ever leaving the bubble.

I have had this gap year experience plus 3 separate travelling jaunts (South America, South East Asia, Central America) to thank for getting me out of the bubble, and of course poker may've been the biggest influence yet.

Course they were proud of you, but they thought you had turned out well because of your boarding school & privileged education & upbringing, whereas, to a degree, you probably turned out ok in spite of those things. 

Slight diversion here, but at what stage in your life do you expect to relegate poker to an occasional hobby, & go into the more traditional world, in business or whatever, & make your mark that way?
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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2015, 12:00:23 PM »


This should be well worth reading, thanks Alex.


 I had been in a private school bubble all my life, never even had friends who weren't from privileged backgrounds in England


All things considered, you've turned out pretty well, I'd say. That sort of upbringing does not always end well, or with a well balanced adult. Your parents must be incredibly proud.

"Church Youth Group". By choice, or wish? Do you still attend church, or was it just a phase you passed though?

I attended Church for around 8 years as a child, but only because I was forced to. I've never attended since, though more & more, I think I should. Not because I'm religious, but it just feels like something nagging away in my mind, essentially a good, or at least well-intended, thing. Spending too long in Casinos or playing poker online just feels like it needs some balance.   

It was all because of music. I was in the church choir from ages 8 or something until my voice broke at 13/14. I was head chorister at the time. It was never about the religious side of it, I've always loved church music, so no it was not a phase. I only go at Christmas now, but still listen to the music and enjoy it with my family.

Interesting angle about the upbringing. You make it sound like my parents must be proud of me to have come through that upbringing and still be alright! I think they would think of it as the opposite! I jolly well should be alright given they upbringing I had!


There's so many hidden things that private school has given me, it goes way beyond the grades. But without some perspective at some point in your life, you will struggle in many situations in the real world I think. Many of my peers will have never even experienced that yet though. Straight from school -> Oxbridge -> London being a city banker, they may coast through life without ever leaving the bubble.

I have had this gap year experience plus 3 separate travelling jaunts (South America, South East Asia, Central America) to thank for getting me out of the bubble, and of course poker may've been the biggest influence yet.

Course they were proud of you, but they thought you had turned out well because of your boarding school & privileged education & upbringing, whereas, to a degree, you probably turned out ok in spite of those things. 

Slight diversion here, but at what stage in your life do you expect to relegate poker to an occasional hobby, & go into the more traditional world, in business or whatever, & make your mark that way?

I'm interested in what experiences you've had with privately educated people that makes you think this way. Or is it just some stereotype? I absolutely do not think I'm an exceptional case, anything but.

I really attribute a lot of my success (other than the lucky part Wink ) down to my education. It may seem ridiculous. But I think I got a kickstart because I got a staking deal very early on. And I got that deal because of my diary - I realised very early on that some degree of self promotion was required in this industry, and my ability to write and be articulate meant that diary was popular. So when James Keys had a big win in Australia and was looking for horses, he picked me having never seen me play, just from "knowing me" through that diary. And I worked really hard at getting good because of the work ethic instilled in me as a child.

There's hundreds of other things but I fear I'm going to get ridiculed and there'll be loads of "I'm x too and I didn't go to private school" responses.

I'm not saying you need private school to have those qualities - I'm saying they gave me a big headstart. For the record, you mentioned boarding school - I never actually went to boarding school. My mother wouldn't have it, though it was definitely my Dad's intention.

To answer your other question, I expect to relegate poker to a hobby quiet soon, intellectually, I'm very bored with it, and don't see much of a future in it generally. I want more from life, and I definitely want stability and not to worry about how I'm going to feed my kids in x years time.

Funnily enough, I'm actually thinking about going into teaching. Anyone know whether my history in poker will make that difficult? I know tom-tom went to some trouble to making himself "un-google-able" when he started his course.
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« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2015, 12:09:14 PM »


This should be well worth reading, thanks Alex.


 I had been in a private school bubble all my life, never even had friends who weren't from privileged backgrounds in England


All things considered, you've turned out pretty well, I'd say. That sort of upbringing does not always end well, or with a well balanced adult. Your parents must be incredibly proud.

"Church Youth Group". By choice, or wish? Do you still attend church, or was it just a phase you passed though?

I attended Church for around 8 years as a child, but only because I was forced to. I've never attended since, though more & more, I think I should. Not because I'm religious, but it just feels like something nagging away in my mind, essentially a good, or at least well-intended, thing. Spending too long in Casinos or playing poker online just feels like it needs some balance.   

It was all because of music. I was in the church choir from ages 8 or something until my voice broke at 13/14. I was head chorister at the time. It was never about the religious side of it, I've always loved church music, so no it was not a phase. I only go at Christmas now, but still listen to the music and enjoy it with my family.

Interesting angle about the upbringing. You make it sound like my parents must be proud of me to have come through that upbringing and still be alright! I think they would think of it as the opposite! I jolly well should be alright given they upbringing I had!


There's so many hidden things that private school has given me, it goes way beyond the grades. But without some perspective at some point in your life, you will struggle in many situations in the real world I think. Many of my peers will have never even experienced that yet though. Straight from school -> Oxbridge -> London being a city banker, they may coast through life without ever leaving the bubble.

I have had this gap year experience plus 3 separate travelling jaunts (South America, South East Asia, Central America) to thank for getting me out of the bubble, and of course poker may've been the biggest influence yet.

Course they were proud of you, but they thought you had turned out well because of your boarding school & privileged education & upbringing, whereas, to a degree, you probably turned out ok in spite of those things. 

Slight diversion here, but at what stage in your life do you expect to relegate poker to an occasional hobby, & go into the more traditional world, in business or whatever, & make your mark that way?

In spite of? lol.

What's wrong with that sort of upbringing?
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« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2015, 01:23:50 PM »

Can't see that poker would have any impact on getting a teaching job to be honest mate. If anything there is big demand for good teachers. I think it would be more of an issue in the corporate world where it's easy to dismiss people with anything less than a conventional CV from school onwards, there is a lot of competition so they can afford to.
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« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2015, 01:26:07 PM »

cf on here. Charles went from playing poker a lot to now a maths teacher (partly why he is on less)

could easily see the clear links from pot odds and the like to teaching maths....

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« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2015, 03:08:26 AM »

19th October 2007

A really good day. Teaching was great fun. I was with standard 4 most of the day. We went through their Maths exam, did corrections etc. Then played volleyball and after lunch did Music. They were abe to recite perfectly both songs I had taught them earlier in the week. It was amazing and they wanted me to teach them another! It seemed they really did enjoy it. After the lesson the kids circled around me and asked me loads of questions. I struggled with a couple of them - how many countries did I cross to get here! And how much did my flight cost in Kenyan shillings (290x135 on the spot!). I have really taken to them and they seem to have taken to me too!

I planned to meet up with Mr Njagi tomorrow. I found out he was engaged to be married and tomorrow he was going to slaughter a goat and offer it to his father in-law-to-be! They seem to have to buy their wives off the wives' fathers! He wants to show me the goat before he slaughters it...

They have some odd traditions here. I asked the kids today what they were doing tomorrow (saturday) and they said they were cleaning the school and getting their heads shaved! Some day off!
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« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2015, 02:53:41 AM »

23rd October

The eldest pupils have apparently been complaining that I haven't been teaching them. So, today, the headmistress told me to follow her and led me to a classroom full of at least 50 girls between 12 and 16. I was slightly worried at this stage, but it was only when she told me they wanted me to tell them about ADOLESCENCE, that I got really worried!

The little I do know about this subject I really did not want to be discussing...What did they expect me to say? Anyway, I made them do the work and ask me questions, which was good because they were very shy and I only got a couple of quite easy questions (Were you afraid of girls?) I left as soon as I could with my brow rather more moist than when I arrived, but I daresay I will be back once they have prepared some more questions to make me even more uncomfortable.

I'm learning some Kiswahili with Mrs Mwendia and have a couple of trips planned for the next two weekends, but generally time is going really slowly and there's such a lot of free time, I'm getting quite bored. When I'm busy, it's great but life is so slow and relaxed here...
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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2015, 08:18:05 PM »


This should be well worth reading, thanks Alex.


 I had been in a private school bubble all my life, never even had friends who weren't from privileged backgrounds in England


All things considered, you've turned out pretty well, I'd say. That sort of upbringing does not always end well, or with a well balanced adult. Your parents must be incredibly proud.

"Church Youth Group". By choice, or wish? Do you still attend church, or was it just a phase you passed though?

I attended Church for around 8 years as a child, but only because I was forced to. I've never attended since, though more & more, I think I should. Not because I'm religious, but it just feels like something nagging away in my mind, essentially a good, or at least well-intended, thing. Spending too long in Casinos or playing poker online just feels like it needs some balance.   

It was all because of music. I was in the church choir from ages 8 or something until my voice broke at 13/14. I was head chorister at the time. It was never about the religious side of it, I've always loved church music, so no it was not a phase. I only go at Christmas now, but still listen to the music and enjoy it with my family.

Interesting angle about the upbringing. You make it sound like my parents must be proud of me to have come through that upbringing and still be alright! I think they would think of it as the opposite! I jolly well should be alright given they upbringing I had!


There's so many hidden things that private school has given me, it goes way beyond the grades. But without some perspective at some point in your life, you will struggle in many situations in the real world I think. Many of my peers will have never even experienced that yet though. Straight from school -> Oxbridge -> London being a city banker, they may coast through life without ever leaving the bubble.

I have had this gap year experience plus 3 separate travelling jaunts (South America, South East Asia, Central America) to thank for getting me out of the bubble, and of course poker may've been the biggest influence yet.

Course they were proud of you, but they thought you had turned out well because of your boarding school & privileged education & upbringing, whereas, to a degree, you probably turned out ok in spite of those things. 

Slight diversion here, but at what stage in your life do you expect to relegate poker to an occasional hobby, & go into the more traditional world, in business or whatever, & make your mark that way?

I'm interested in what experiences you've had with privately educated people that makes you think this way. Or is it just some stereotype? I absolutely do not think I'm an exceptional case, anything but.

I really attribute a lot of my success (other than the lucky part Wink ) down to my education. It may seem ridiculous. But I think I got a kickstart because I got a staking deal very early on. And I got that deal because of my diary - I realised very early on that some degree of self promotion was required in this industry, and my ability to write and be articulate meant that diary was popular. So when James Keys had a big win in Australia and was looking for horses, he picked me having never seen me play, just from "knowing me" through that diary. And I worked really hard at getting good because of the work ethic instilled in me as a child.

There's hundreds of other things but I fear I'm going to get ridiculed and there'll be loads of "I'm x too and I didn't go to private school" responses.

I'm not saying you need private school to have those qualities - I'm saying they gave me a big headstart. For the record, you mentioned boarding school - I never actually went to boarding school. My mother wouldn't have it, though it was definitely my Dad's intention.

To answer your other question, I expect to relegate poker to a hobby quiet soon, intellectually, I'm very bored with it, and don't see much of a future in it generally. I want more from life, and I definitely want stability and not to worry about how I'm going to feed my kids in x years time.

Funnily enough, I'm actually thinking about going into teaching. Anyone know whether my history in poker will make that difficult? I know tom-tom went to some trouble to making himself "un-google-able" when he started his course.

Never be afraid to talk your mind buddy just because of your upbringing, whatever that may be. Genuinely you don't come across like this is an issue for you, just reading the sentence above it come across to me in that way. People who are Jealous of peoples upbringing are just Idiots to put it mildly 

After reading your diary (and this one so far) it seems you've had an interesting life to date, but it seems like you've worked hard to get there. Your work ethic deffo comes through in your writing.
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« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2015, 09:57:21 PM »

Find the discussion on the 'headstart' thing from a public school education really interesting.

I went to comprehensive school but in later life (late 20s) went on a couple of cricket tours representing Old Merchant Taylors as a mate went there and I guess they were short of a player or two.

They weren't all necessarily the most intelligent people I ever met, they weren't all necessarily in the highest echelon of earners but they had something about them in terms of confidence, bearing, charisma that was very attractive. I want to say something along the lines of feelings of entitlement but that has a negative connotation that I don't mean.

Definitely something in the system that imparts an underlying strength of character and purpose in a 'who else would run everything anyway ?' kind of way

Anyway, glad I've had this opportunity to contribute in such an articulate way to the sum of human knowledge.
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« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2015, 10:07:23 PM »

Yes it was interesting to hear Tikays views, but he seems to have prematurely bowed out of the discussion...
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« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2015, 10:15:07 PM »

Yes it was interesting to hear Tikays views, but he seems to have prematurely bowed out of the discussion...

Behave. Smiley

I was aware that I was inadvertently derailing a lovely thread, so I decided to either say no more, or, more likely, continue the debate in your diary.
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« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2015, 10:28:18 PM »

You'd be most welcome to, sir
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« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2015, 10:49:04 PM »

Yes it was interesting to hear Tikays views, but he seems to have prematurely bowed out of the discussion...

Probs my fault for throwing the question in there sorry lol.

There are a fair few public school types on here including myself, don't see the big sweat to be honest. I'm an in betweener really, my parents were old skool working class farmers who did well in life and wanted their kids to have a catholic education that was better than any local school could provide. No more no less....

Anyway, great thread, carry on please  Smiley
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