The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[ripple11]

I get the impression the commentators (and plenty on here) are looking forward to seeing bad economic news, like a pack of hungry wolves hunting prey.

So nice to see inflation fall today from 2.9% to 2.6%.

Didn't see the 64,000 drop in unemployment figures, now lowest since 1975, mentioned by anyone here in last week either.

I'm sure there will be plenty of gloating when bad news comes.

In 1975 employment meant income security

I wouldn't say that you're comparing apples and oranges, call it nectarines and oranges

Strange times we live in when real wages falling slightly slower than they were is something to shout about!

The pound climbed back above $1.30 today so its not all bad news

Dan, when wages were increasing above inflation for the last 2 years was that deemed newsworthy?

Just adding a bit of balance and actual economic news that is backed by facts rather than constant negativity opinion, led by the liberal elite and political classes which started in the build up to the Brexit vote and has continued non- stop ever since.

And for clarity, I don't have my head buried in the sand, I'm sure we'll have plenty to contend with over next 2-3 years.

Agreed there is going to be alot of yoyo with our chips in the next couple of years.....but so much doom and gloom, when we have only just bought into the tournament and sat down.

Hopefully David Davis is our John Hesp   

[neeko]

If we are doing economics can we get picky and pint out that RPI only fell 0.2% to 3.5% it was only CPIH that fell to 2.6(-0.3),  https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices

[The Camel]

I get the impression the commentators (and plenty on here) are looking forward to seeing bad economic news, like a pack of hungry wolves hunting prey.

So nice to see inflation fall today from 2.9% to 2.6%.

Didn't see the 64,000 drop in unemployment figures, now lowest since 1975, mentioned by anyone here in last week either.

I'm sure there will be plenty of gloating when bad news comes.

In 1975 employment meant income security

I wouldn't say that you're comparing apples and oranges, call it nectarines and oranges

Strange times we live in when real wages falling slightly slower than they were is something to shout about!

The pound climbed back above $1.30 today so its not all bad news

Dan, when wages were increasing above inflation for the last 2 years was that deemed newsworthy?

Just adding a bit of balance and actual economic news that is backed by facts rather than constant negativity opinion, led by the liberal elite and political classes which started in the build up to the Brexit vote and has continued non- stop ever since.

And for clarity, I don't have my head buried in the sand, I'm sure we'll have plenty to contend with over next 2-3 years.

Agreed there is going to be alot of yoyo with our chips in the next couple of years.....but so much doom and gloom, when we have only just bought into the tournament and sat down.

Hopefully David Davis is our John Hesp   

What, incompetent and completely out of his depth?

[ripple11]

I get the impression the commentators (and plenty on here) are looking forward to seeing bad economic news, like a pack of hungry wolves hunting prey.

So nice to see inflation fall today from 2.9% to 2.6%.

Didn't see the 64,000 drop in unemployment figures, now lowest since 1975, mentioned by anyone here in last week either.

I'm sure there will be plenty of gloating when bad news comes.

In 1975 employment meant income security

I wouldn't say that you're comparing apples and oranges, call it nectarines and oranges

Strange times we live in when real wages falling slightly slower than they were is something to shout about!

The pound climbed back above $1.30 today so its not all bad news

Dan, when wages were increasing above inflation for the last 2 years was that deemed newsworthy?

Just adding a bit of balance and actual economic news that is backed by facts rather than constant negativity opinion, led by the liberal elite and political classes which started in the build up to the Brexit vote and has continued non- stop ever since.

And for clarity, I don't have my head buried in the sand, I'm sure we'll have plenty to contend with over next 2-3 years.

Agreed there is going to be alot of yoyo with our chips in the next couple of years.....but so much doom and gloom, when we have only just bought into the tournament and sat down.

Hopefully David Davis is our John Hesp   

What, incompetent and completely out of his depth?

better to be lucky than good.....

[TightEnd]

Amongst commentators, anti-Brexit opinion is hardening. Amongst voters: not so much. (yet)

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[TightEnd]

With his surprising appeal to teens and millennials, Jacob Rees-Mogg could be the perfect antidote to Corbynism

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/07/why-jacob-rees-mogg-should-be-the-next-tory-leader/

and yesterday he was 2nd favourite

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but he has ruled himself out

Rees-Mogg isn't Ready. He tells Andrew Gimson that he won't stand for the Tory leadership http://bit.ly/2tF3URW

[TightEnd]

a good headline

In David Davis, Britain has a schoolboy in charge of the moon landings

and an unflattering article

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/18/david-davis-brexit-secretary

[TightEnd]

Paris and Frankfurt working to cut City of London out of financial market after Brexit - reports http://bit.ly/2vwGLCs

[TightEnd]

"Labour’s official line on Brexit sounds stupid because it is stupid":

http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/stephen-bush-divided-labour-hasn-t-a-clue-or-a-clear-leader-on-brexit-a3589501.html

[TightEnd]

still on labour's website

see point 4

errrr

[TightEnd]

UK state pension age increase from 67 to 68 to be brought forward by seven years to 2037, government says

(more to come i expect, especially as ending triple lock appears to be a political no no)

[neeko]

UK state pension age increase from 67 to 68 to be brought forward by seven years to 2037, government says

(more to come i expect, especially as ending triple lock appears to be a political no no)

A very well timed announcement - only make the lead story in the i paper, and in the summer and after parliament has just about finished for the summer. It's almost as if the govt were trying to hide it.

[Cavey007]

UK state pension age increase from 67 to 68 to be brought forward by seven years to 2037, government says

(more to come i expect, especially as ending triple lock appears to be a political no no)

A very well timed announcement - only make the lead story in the i paper, and in the summer and after parliament has just about finished for the summer. It's almost as if the govt were trying to hide it.

Not looking forward to working until I'm 70. No doubt it will rise again before 2037.

[TightEnd]

The NS Leader: The Brexit wars http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/07/leader-brexit-wars

[TightEnd]

Tory feuds reveal a leadership contest is already under way,

http://www.newstatesman.com/2017/07/tory-feuds-reveal-leadership-contest-already-under-way