The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[TightEnd]

Support for a second Brexit vote is growing and Leavers should be nervous

http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/07/17/exclusive-support-for-a-second-brexit-vote-is-growing-and-leavers-should-be-nervous/

[TightEnd]

How Brexit should be done.

https://www.ft.com/content/4278146d-67e9-3430-8711-0d3e6d74c25e

[TightEnd]

Corbyn to urge PLP to stay united against the Tories. As tensions continue to simmer over party rule changes + more.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-urges-mps-to-unite-nec-set-to-oppose-leadership-rule-change-willmott-report_uk_596cdaa8e4b03389bb194863?3qo

[TightEnd]

The Guardian view on cabinet leaks: not before time, the battle of Brexit | Editorial

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/17/the-guardian-view-on-cabinet-leaks-not-before-time-the-battle-of-brexit?CMP=twt_gu

[TightEnd]

Theresa May is reminding everybody how little power she has

"Nobody is really in charge of Britain

The prime minister’s power has drained away, leaving the country adrift"

https://www.economist.com/news/britain/21724996-prime-ministers-power-has-drained-away-leaving-country-adrift-nobody-really-charge?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/nobodyisreallyinchargeofbritain

[TightEnd]

The debate is starting: Author of Article 50 calls for halt to Brexit. No Brexit must be an option for UK.

https://www.ft.com/content/4f0163d4-6b0a-11e7-bfeb-33fe0c5b7eaa?emailId=596cf33b5961130004f15d33

[TightEnd]

Findings on BREXIT from the LAB members survey

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[TightEnd]

 Big majority of Labour members 'want UK to stay in single market'

Research could put pressure on Jeremy Corbyn to adjust Brexit stance, given his desire to give power to party grassroots

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/17/most-labour-members-want-uk-to-remain-in-single-market?CMP=share_btn_tw

[TightEnd]

Theresa May likely to face coup attempt by some Tory MPs in autumn

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/17/may-likely-to-face-autumn-bid-by-some-tory-mps-to-topple-her?CMP=twt_gu

[DaveShoelace]

From Apr 2016: Lib Dem voters and 18 to 24s most positive about a female Doctor Who. Tory voters and the over 65s most negative

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Tory's and ld voters more bigoted and backward than most, who'd have thought it?

Probably see a big fliparoo on those polls between Tory and Conservative if instead it was 'Female party leader'

[RickBFA]

I get the impression the commentators (and plenty on here) are looking forward to seeing bad economic news, like a pack of hungry wolves hunting prey.

So nice to see inflation fall today from 2.9% to 2.6%.

Didn't see the 64,000 drop in unemployment figures, now lowest since 1975, mentioned by anyone here in last week either.

I'm sure there will be plenty of gloating when bad news comes.

[DMorgan]

Bumper edition of the daily briefing today!

Thanks Rich, really good stuff

I don't really see what there is to be gained for the cabinet Brexiteers to launch a leadership challenge. For what reason could Davis/Gove/Boris reasonably expect to have any more success than May has at halting the steady stream of concessions from our side? Do they still see her as being a bit wishy washy on the idea of a hard brexit?

I can see why the Remainers would want a go at the leadership. A change of tack, looking to be outside the EU but in the single market with somewhat restricted freedom of movement in exchange for some continued budget contributions and a loosening of Londons grip on European banking.

If we continue to make some budget contributions and we stay in the single market then the two biggest negotiating chasms close up and the project begins to look deliverable and would probably quell support for another vote.

[PokerBroker]

I get the impression the commentators (and plenty on here) are looking forward to seeing bad economic news, like a pack of hungry wolves hunting prey.

So nice to see inflation fall today from 2.9% to 2.6%.

Didn't see the 64,000 drop in unemployment figures, now lowest since 1975, mentioned by anyone here in last week either.

I'm sure there will be plenty of gloating when bad news comes.

False economy though innit. 

No point in flooding the market with low paid temp jobs and forcing people clearly not fit to work back into an enviroment they are not prepared or able to cope with. 

If it was well paid, sustainable jobs being created and not a massaging of figures I'd be happy. 

Inflation reducing is clearly good news for everyone but I'd be willing to bet that it will burst 3% by the end of the year and we will see an interest rate rise. 

As a leave voter though I am more concerned about the absolute mess this coaliation of chaos has got itself into.  Doomed I tell you.

[DMorgan]

I get the impression the commentators (and plenty on here) are looking forward to seeing bad economic news, like a pack of hungry wolves hunting prey.

So nice to see inflation fall today from 2.9% to 2.6%.

Didn't see the 64,000 drop in unemployment figures, now lowest since 1975, mentioned by anyone here in last week either.

I'm sure there will be plenty of gloating when bad news comes.

In 1975 employment meant income security

I wouldn't say that you're comparing apples and oranges, call it nectarines and oranges

Strange times we live in when real wages falling slightly slower than they were is something to shout about!

The pound climbed back above $1.30 today so its not all bad news

[RickBFA]

I get the impression the commentators (and plenty on here) are looking forward to seeing bad economic news, like a pack of hungry wolves hunting prey.

So nice to see inflation fall today from 2.9% to 2.6%.

Didn't see the 64,000 drop in unemployment figures, now lowest since 1975, mentioned by anyone here in last week either.

I'm sure there will be plenty of gloating when bad news comes.

In 1975 employment meant income security

I wouldn't say that you're comparing apples and oranges, call it nectarines and oranges

Strange times we live in when real wages falling slightly slower than they were is something to shout about!

The pound climbed back above $1.30 today so its not all bad news

Dan, when wages were increasing above inflation for the last 2 years was that deemed newsworthy?

Just adding a bit of balance and actual economic news that is backed by facts rather than constant negativity opinion, led by the liberal elite and political classes which started in the build up to the Brexit vote and has continued non- stop ever since.

And for clarity, I don't have my head buried in the sand, I'm sure we'll have plenty to contend with over next 2-3 years.