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[TightEnd]

UK hopes of EU trade talks this autumn 'will be dashed', says Slovenian PM

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/20/uk-hopes-of-eu-trade-talks-this-autumn-will-be-dashed-says-slovenian-pm

[TightEnd]

47% of Britons now disapprove of Theresa May's handling of Brexit: via @OpiniumResearch, 15 - 18 Aug

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[TightEnd]

New polling finds that more than a third of Leave voters believed that £350m a week would be coming to the NHS

The polling by Opinium also finds that a fifth of all Leave voters STILL believe that the money will be coming to the NHS

http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/08/21/new-polling-finds-that-more-than-a-third-of-leave-voters-believed-that-350m-a-week-would-be-coming-to-the-nhs/

[Woodsey]

New polling finds that more than a third of Leave voters believed that £350m a week would be coming to the NHS

The polling by Opinium also finds that a fifth of all Leave voters STILL believe that the money will be coming to the NHS

http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/08/21/new-polling-finds-that-more-than-a-third-of-leave-voters-believed-that-350m-a-week-would-be-coming-to-the-nhs/

You never seem to mention any of the lies from the remain side Richard?

[kukushkin88]

New polling finds that more than a third of Leave voters believed that £350m a week would be coming to the NHS

The polling by Opinium also finds that a fifth of all Leave voters STILL believe that the money will be coming to the NHS

http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/08/21/new-polling-finds-that-more-than-a-third-of-leave-voters-believed-that-350m-a-week-would-be-coming-to-the-nhs/

You never seem to mention any of the lies from the remain side Richard?

What were the remain lies? Seems to me like on both sides it was mostly clueless guess work rather than intentional lying.

[Woodsey]

New polling finds that more than a third of Leave voters believed that £350m a week would be coming to the NHS

The polling by Opinium also finds that a fifth of all Leave voters STILL believe that the money will be coming to the NHS

http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/08/21/new-polling-finds-that-more-than-a-third-of-leave-voters-believed-that-350m-a-week-would-be-coming-to-the-nhs/

You never seem to mention any of the lies from the remain side Richard?

What were the remain lies? Seems to me like on both sides it was mostly clueless guess work rather than intentional lying.

Use google....

[kukushkin88]

New polling finds that more than a third of Leave voters believed that £350m a week would be coming to the NHS

The polling by Opinium also finds that a fifth of all Leave voters STILL believe that the money will be coming to the NHS

http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/08/21/new-polling-finds-that-more-than-a-third-of-leave-voters-believed-that-350m-a-week-would-be-coming-to-the-nhs/

You never seem to mention any of the lies from the remain side Richard?

What were the remain lies? Seems to me like on both sides it was mostly clueless guess work rather than intentional lying.

Use google....

I couldn't find anything other than speculation about what might happen in the event of what's come to be termed a 'hard' Brexit. Since that won't happen, we'll never know.

[doubleup]

New polling finds that more than a third of Leave voters believed that £350m a week would be coming to the NHS

The polling by Opinium also finds that a fifth of all Leave voters STILL believe that the money will be coming to the NHS

http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/08/21/new-polling-finds-that-more-than-a-third-of-leave-voters-believed-that-350m-a-week-would-be-coming-to-the-nhs/

You never seem to mention any of the lies from the remain side Richard?

What were the remain lies? Seems to me like on both sides it was mostly clueless guess work rather than intentional lying.

Use google....

I couldn't find anything other than speculation about what might happen in the event of what's come to be termed a 'hard' Brexit. Since that won't happen, we'll never know.

Are you sure?  It seems pretty much like Theresa May's plan is let the talks collapse and blame Europe.

 

[DaveShoelace]

New polling finds that more than a third of Leave voters believed that £350m a week would be coming to the NHS

The polling by Opinium also finds that a fifth of all Leave voters STILL believe that the money will be coming to the NHS

http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/08/21/new-polling-finds-that-more-than-a-third-of-leave-voters-believed-that-350m-a-week-would-be-coming-to-the-nhs/

You never seem to mention any of the lies from the remain side Richard?

What were the remain lies? Seems to me like on both sides it was mostly clueless guess work rather than intentional lying.

Use google....

This is a fun new evolution of internet debate, "You research my side of the argument then argue against it"

[RED-DOG]

New polling finds that more than a third of Leave voters believed that £350m a week would be coming to the NHS

The polling by Opinium also finds that a fifth of all Leave voters STILL believe that the money will be coming to the NHS

http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/08/21/new-polling-finds-that-more-than-a-third-of-leave-voters-believed-that-350m-a-week-would-be-coming-to-the-nhs/

You never seem to mention any of the lies from the remain side Richard?

What were the remain lies? Seems to me like on both sides it was mostly clueless guess work rather than intentional lying.

Use google....

This is a fun new evolution of internet debate, "You research my side of the argument then argue against it"

I lolled.

[rfgqqabc]

Cameron staying was a lie. Cameron lied about the ability to remove jobless eu migrants after 6 months. Seems like a ludicrous claim to make.

Turkey is a weird one as negotiations did stop but due to the coup. Happy to offer 10/1 on turkey joining before end of 2020.  

Trade war somewhat unlikely but remains to be seen, very early days for any other economic forecasts.

Osbornes punishment budget never came. Did scrap deficit reduction targets before he was fired. Very early in the leave process though. I thunk his statement regarding reduction in public funds is looking true now though?

Lots of tory lies I guess. Some seem possible still re budgets and things.  Not sure I'd call them all debnuked or lies like the 350m claim.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3655236/Nailed-four-big-EU-lies-Talks-Turkey-stall-Brexit-WON-T-spark-trade-war-say-Germans-Brussels-NOT-reform-open-borders-deportation-jobless-EU-migrants-myth.html

https://www.quora.com/What-exactly-were-the-lies-of-the-Remain-Campaign

Not sure what else woodsey could mean. Lazy fek.

[Woodsey]

New polling finds that more than a third of Leave voters believed that £350m a week would be coming to the NHS

The polling by Opinium also finds that a fifth of all Leave voters STILL believe that the money will be coming to the NHS

http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/08/21/new-polling-finds-that-more-than-a-third-of-leave-voters-believed-that-350m-a-week-would-be-coming-to-the-nhs/

You never seem to mention any of the lies from the remain side Richard?

What were the remain lies? Seems to me like on both sides it was mostly clueless guess work rather than intentional lying.

Use google....

This is a fun new evolution of internet debate, "You research my side of the argument then argue against it"

Cba wasting my time with people who already think they are 'informed'...

I would have given some people an answer.

[doubleup]

The only major lie was Cameron saying he would trigger Article 50 the day after the referendum.  If he had done that, a lot of the other doom forecasts would have come true.

[TightEnd]

FFS. it's a clock....

[TightEnd]

The UK is turning against Brexit but the Lib Dems aren't benefiting

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/08/uk-turning-against-brexit-lib-dems-arent-benefiting