The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[Woodsey]

I think I have just seen one of my favourite newspaper headlines ever

Front page of metro

"Corbyn's free vote puts UK on brink of war"

War mongering bastard.

it does seem a bit daft

the default of the media seems to be

we are going to war - corbyn's fault

we aren't going to war - corbyn's fault

i know the corollary of a labour free vote is that it is more likely that the vote passes, but he'd sure be pilloried if he whipped it and the vote failed

So the consensus is whichever way you look at it Corbyn is a bellend? seems about right.... 

[TightEnd]

I think I have just seen one of my favourite newspaper headlines ever

Front page of metro

"Corbyn's free vote puts UK on brink of war"

War mongering bastard.

it does seem a bit daft

the default of the media seems to be

we are going to war - corbyn's fault

we aren't going to war - corbyn's fault

i know the corollary of a labour free vote is that it is more likely that the vote passes, but he'd sure be pilloried if he whipped it and the vote failed

So the consensus is whichever way you look at it Corbyn is a bellend? seems about right.... 

that's not my point

my point was about the press.

[TightEnd]

tomorrow's motion

Click to see full-size image.

it tries to meet the tests of the labour conference resolutions

[AlunB]

Question of the day

Heard someone suggest that there should be a short knowledge test before voting. If you answer all the questions correctly, your vote counts for more because you have a more informed opinion. So as an example, maybe if the general knowledge test was today, perhaps a question could be 'who is the President of Syria?'. Even if it meant that people would try and game the system by studying just before voting, it would have the desired effect, because they would indeed have a more informed vote.

What do you think of this idea?

Not a lot tbh

Where is the study coming from? Daily Mail front pages?

There wasn't a study, it was just an idea someone suggested in an interview. I don't actually agree with it myself, but thought it was an interesting discussion topic.

Why do you not think a lot of the idea?

To put it another way - given the clear levels of ignorance and stupidity in a lot of the general population - why is democracy a good thing?

Because reasons

Without wanting to trot out the old Churchill quote it really is the best of all the bad options. Anything else is just open to (even more) abuse by those in power.

[Doobs]

I think I have just seen one of my favourite newspaper headlines ever

Front page of metro

"Corbyn's free vote puts UK on brink of war"

War mongering bastard.

it does seem a bit daft

the default of the media seems to be

we are going to war - corbyn's fault

we aren't going to war - corbyn's fault

i know the corollary of a labour free vote is that it is more likely that the vote passes, but he'd sure be pilloried if he whipped it and the vote failed

So the consensus is whichever way you look at it Corbyn is a bellend? seems about right.... 

that's not my point

my point was about the press.

My point too.  Metro owned by the daily mail group if it wasn't clear from the headline

[titaniumbean]

tomorrow's motion

Click to see full-size image.

it tries to meet the tests of the labour conference resolutions

it's like it's written by the onion. such fucking insane satire. how is this real?!?


we're defending...

is only one component of a broader strategy   

underlines the importance of planning for post bombing the fuck out of them   

continued determination to cut sources of finance, fighters and weapons 

seeking to avoid civilian casualties 


such drivel it's unreal.

[kukushkin88]

I fancy this bloke. A lot, like a lot a lot.


https://www.opendemocracy.net/wfd/jacob-appelbaum/more-not-less-democracy


Embedded video -

Firstly let's get rid of the idea that there is any link between left wing politics and a bleeding heart/liberal mentality. Does anybody know where this came from? I think it is an invention of the British press media (who I strongly feel are the worst thing about modern Britain, the worst elements of our press being amongst the worst c***s on the planet). Secondly, what a lot of sense that guy is speaking. I'd recommend listening to it if you haven't already.

[MintTrav]

So the consensus is whichever way you look at it Corbyn is a bellend? seems about right.... 

He really posted that? Unbelievable.

[Woodsey]

So the consensus is whichever way you look at it Corbyn is a bellend? seems about right.... 

He really posted that? Unbelievable.

Yeah I did, and he's never getting voted in because too many people think he is

Actually hes so bad he'll probably get binned before the next election, but I hope not as a walkover for the tories would be great 

[horseplayer]

So the consensus is whichever way you look at it Corbyn is a bellend? seems about right.... 

He really posted that? Unbelievable.

let him troll away and he will go away

[kukushkin88]

So the consensus is whichever way you look at it Corbyn is a bellend? seems about right.... 

He really posted that? Unbelievable.

Yeah I did, and he's never getting voted in because too many people think he is

Actually hes so bad he'll probably get binned before the next election, but I hope not as a walkover for the tories would be great 

Emoji's are for children and relentless use of emoji's that imply stirring or winding people up are for children who will grow up to be *****. Not sure where that leaves you but it can't be good. You have nothing of substance to contribute, ever.

[Woodsey]

So the consensus is whichever way you look at it Corbyn is a bellend? seems about right.... 

He really posted that? Unbelievable.

Yeah I did, and he's never getting voted in because too many people think he is

Actually hes so bad he'll probably get binned before the next election, but I hope not as a walkover for the tories would be great 

Emoji's are for children and relentless use of emoji's that imply stirring or winding people up are for children who will grow up to be *****. Not sure where that leaves you but it can't be good. You have nothing of substance to contribute, ever.

Ahh didums, you hate the truth about the politics you like. A few extra emoticons especially for you hunny bunny 

[kukushkin88]

So the consensus is whichever way you look at it Corbyn is a bellend? seems about right.... 

He really posted that? Unbelievable.

Yeah I did, and he's never getting voted in because too many people think he is

Actually hes so bad he'll probably get binned before the next election, but I hope not as a walkover for the tories would be great 

Emoji's are for children and relentless use of emoji's that imply stirring or winding people up are for children who will grow up to be *****. Not sure where that leaves you but it can't be good. You have nothing of substance to contribute, ever.

for the avoidance of doubt. it begins with a c.

[Woodsey]

So the consensus is whichever way you look at it Corbyn is a bellend? seems about right.... 

He really posted that? Unbelievable.

Yeah I did, and he's never getting voted in because too many people think he is

Actually hes so bad he'll probably get binned before the next election, but I hope not as a walkover for the tories would be great 

Emoji's are for children and relentless use of emoji's that imply stirring or winding people up are for children who will grow up to be *****. Not sure where that leaves you but it can't be good. You have nothing of substance to contribute, ever.

for the avoidance of doubt. it begins with a c.

Love you too 

[DaveShoelace]

Guys come on this is a politics thread, hardly the ideal environment for petty arguments, polarised debates and mud slinging.