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« Reply #12030 on: March 05, 2018, 11:23:54 AM »

very interesting unroll: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/970338595482595328.html

the writer is the former EU chief trade negotatior
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« Reply #12031 on: March 05, 2018, 11:30:49 AM »

4 slides putting the Brexit border issue as simply as possible

Here is a very simple outline of what border controls mean for different types of border with the EU, i.e. if in the EEA, if in a Customs Union, with a FTA, with nowt. The spectrum is vast. This is just the basics, with a focus on goods.

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« Reply #12032 on: March 05, 2018, 11:32:10 AM »

This, again, is a simple outline of what a customs border requires, both for those moving goods across it and for those charged with enforcing it.
It is intended to show that a 'hard border' is not just determined by its visibility. And this is before we even touch on NTBs etc.
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« Reply #12033 on: March 05, 2018, 11:32:56 AM »

Here we have a very basic outline of what 'smart border technology' can do and what it requires.
It is primarily a means of enhancing efficiency.
It cannot make a hard border 'frictionless'.
It requires physical infrastructure. It does not obviate the need for inspections etc

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« Reply #12034 on: March 05, 2018, 11:33:35 AM »

And here are, as I see it, the main scenarios we are looking at for UK/EU borders post-Brexit + a summary of what each would mean for GB/NI & NI/IRL borders.

IMO the draft Protocol is narrow interpretation of Joint Report. UK in a CU wd be minimum to keep E/W open as possible.
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« Reply #12035 on: March 06, 2018, 12:55:38 PM »

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« Reply #12036 on: March 06, 2018, 12:58:11 PM »

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« Reply #12037 on: March 06, 2018, 12:59:59 PM »

Interesting blog

Following the draft Withdrawal Agreement, view on Brexit, the Ireland/Northern Ireland Border and the contradictions on both sides of the negotiations.

https://medium.com/@dijdowell/consent-and-conciliation-brexit-and-the-border-d69de3f906d3
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« Reply #12038 on: March 06, 2018, 04:36:03 PM »

Can't believe that the PM was so poorly briefed as to suggest that the US-Canada border was a possible model. It's such a simple thing to check. She can't know everything, but her staff should prevent that kind of embarrassment on the biggest current issue in UK politics. 

To increase the farce, when the Irish Prime Minister was asked about it, it turned out he had first-hand knowledge of that border: https://mobile.twitter.com/rtenews/status/970757944987082753/video/1

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« Reply #12039 on: March 08, 2018, 11:51:30 AM »

Donald Tusk

"EU27 wants UK as close friend & partner and will enter talks on future with open, positive mind. But given UK red lines only an FTA is possible. It will be the first FTA in history to loosen, not strengthen economic ties. Drifting apart is essence of Brexit."

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« Reply #12040 on: March 08, 2018, 11:52:36 AM »

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« Reply #12041 on: March 08, 2018, 11:53:19 AM »

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« Reply #12042 on: March 08, 2018, 11:54:59 AM »

This is most important political statement in EU draft guidelines for trade talks with Brexit UK. It says only deal available - a basic free trade deal - will have “negative economic consequences” for UK and EU - and that is price worth paying.

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« Reply #12043 on: March 08, 2018, 11:57:22 AM »

May accused of putting party politics ahead of Brexit solution in leaked EU report savaging PM

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/06/theresa-may-conservative-politics-brexit-solutions-leaked-eu-report?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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« Reply #12044 on: March 09, 2018, 09:32:04 AM »

Put succinctly

Lux PM Bettel: "They were in with a load of opt-outs. Now they are out, and want a load of opt-ins.”
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