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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
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« Reply #12120 on: March 15, 2018, 06:26:46 PM »

It's not abuse darling, it's just jokes. Like Billy Connolly. You snowflake?


I get your drift, but surely your joke is more obscure than mine.
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« Reply #12121 on: March 15, 2018, 06:38:41 PM »

It's not abuse darling, it's just jokes. Like Billy Connolly. You snowflake?


I get your drift, but surely your joke is more obscure than mine.

Your jokes leave me a little cold Tom. Always just a light covering of humour but I grit my teeth and plough through.
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« Reply #12122 on: March 15, 2018, 06:42:21 PM »

It's not abuse darling, it's just jokes. Like Billy Connolly. You snowflake?

Snowflake must be the silliest yet. It's like 'Lefty Liberal". Just an invention of hateful right wing people but they don't actually mean anything. Can anyone explain snowflake? I actually don't understand it in this context.
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« Reply #12123 on: March 15, 2018, 06:43:03 PM »

It's not abuse darling, it's just jokes. Like Billy Connolly. You snowflake?


I get your drift, but surely your joke is more obscure than mine.

Your jokes leave me a little cold Tom. Always just a light covering of humour but I grit my teeth and plough through.

Oh Icy.
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« Reply #12124 on: March 15, 2018, 06:54:23 PM »

It's not abuse darling, it's just jokes. Like Billy Connolly. You snowflake?


I get your drift, but surely your joke is more obscure than mine.

Your jokes leave me a little cold Tom. Always just a light covering of humour but I grit my teeth and plough through.

Icy.

I liked your joke.

(have to admit I found the Corbyn / Big Issue one the funniest today, though).
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« Reply #12125 on: March 15, 2018, 06:56:14 PM »

It's not abuse darling, it's just jokes. Like Billy Connolly. You snowflake?

Snowflake must be the silliest yet. It's like 'Lefty Liberal". Just an invention of hateful right wing people but they don't actually mean anything. Can anyone explain snowflake? I actually don't understand it in this context.

Yup snowflake
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« Reply #12126 on: March 15, 2018, 07:08:29 PM »

"Nothing -- literally nothing -- upsets Moscow as much as the thought of the world championship without England. If the Brits really come through with this threat, then Putin will admit responsibility for the Salisbury affair and promise never to be so naughty again."

Tweet by Margarita Simonyan - Editor-In-Chief, Russia Today.
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« Reply #12127 on: March 16, 2018, 12:26:41 AM »

Why weren't we as fired up about Litvinenko where we found a plausible suspect. This seems like kind of a weak case, anyone could in theory make the poisons at this point, the formulas have been published. Seems like weird timing for Putin to bump someone off who doesn't seem to be like much of a critic? God knows what the correct response is, can't see either Corbyn or May doing much.   
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« Reply #12128 on: March 16, 2018, 01:00:48 AM »

Why weren't we as fired up about Litvinenko where we found a plausible suspect. This seems like kind of a weak case, anyone could in theory make the poisons at this point, the formulas have been published. Seems like weird timing for Putin to bump someone off who doesn't seem to be like much of a critic? God knows what the correct response is, can't see either Corbyn or May doing much.   

Where has it been published?  Everything I have read suggested that only the Russians have made it.  Even if it is possible to make it, it doesn't seem like the sort of stuff you'd experiment with in your bedroom.  It seems a pretty big coincidence that some random has thrown it together, not fecked themselves up and just happens to have found an ex-spy to try it out on?  And if this was an easy thing to do, why aren't more people doing it?

Of course I dare say they haven't got Litvinenko proof yet, but it seems more likely than not to be the right conclusion? 

I would add that Putin has shown little sign of giving the slighest shit what anyone else thinks for a while now.
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« Reply #12129 on: March 16, 2018, 04:23:06 AM »

Just before election is perfect timing because a) the Russians love it, they see it as strong leader being strong and b) if you don't love it don't oppose me
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« Reply #12130 on: March 16, 2018, 08:09:44 AM »

I can't figure out how nerve gas could be used by one individual against another.
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« Reply #12131 on: March 16, 2018, 09:49:49 AM »

Why weren't we as fired up about Litvinenko where we found a plausible suspect. This seems like kind of a weak case, anyone could in theory make the poisons at this point, the formulas have been published. Seems like weird timing for Putin to bump someone off who doesn't seem to be like much of a critic? God knows what the correct response is, can't see either Corbyn or May doing much.   

Where has it been published?  Everything I have read suggested that only the Russians have made it.  Even if it is possible to make it, it doesn't seem like the sort of stuff you'd experiment with in your bedroom.  It seems a pretty big coincidence that some random has thrown it together, not fecked themselves up and just happens to have found an ex-spy to try it out on?  And if this was an easy thing to do, why aren't more people doing it?

Of course I dare say they haven't got Litvinenko proof yet, but it seems more likely than not to be the right conclusion? 

I would add that Putin has shown little sign of giving the slighest shit what anyone else thinks for a while now.

Found with an alt-right source so glad you made me check.
"Novichok's existence was revealed by chemist Dr Vil Mirzayanov in the 1990s, via Russian media. He later defected to the US, where he published the chemical formula in his book, State Secrets."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43377698

I brought up Litvinenko because we do have a suspect and presumably compelling evidence whereas in this case we don't see to have much apart from the "weapon". We have a full inquiry but didn't seem to do too much about it. "The report found that Litvinenko was killed by two Russian agents, Andrei Lugovoi and Dmitry Kovtun and that there was a "strong probability" they were acting on behalf of the Russian FSB secret service.[138] Paragraph 10.6 of the report stated: "The FSB operation to kill Mr Litvinenko was probably approved by Mr Patrushev and also by President Putin."[139]"

Not really sure what to make of this guy but its interesting and more informed than your average newspaper article.

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« Reply #12132 on: March 16, 2018, 10:00:23 AM »

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 42% (+1)
LAB: 39% (-4)
LDEM: 7% (-)

via @YouGov, 14 - 15 Mar
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« Reply #12133 on: March 16, 2018, 10:01:09 AM »

YouGov/Times ("How well or badly do you think [leader] has responded to the incident in Salisbury", %)

Theresa May: WELL 53 BADLY 23
Jeremy Corbyn WELL 18 BADLY 39

 Fieldwork 14th-15th Mar N~1,986

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« Reply #12134 on: March 16, 2018, 10:06:12 AM »

on Corbyn and Russia. Is this the moment the masks slips in the minds of middle England?

https://news.sky.com/story/sky-views-the-populist-misjudges-the-people-11290237
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