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[Cf]

I don’t really understand this local election stuff but looking at the numbers on bbc news labour have more seats than everyone else combined. What does that mean?

[Jon MW]

I don’t really understand this local election stuff but looking at the numbers on bbc news labour have more seats than everyone else combined. What does that mean?

I think it's a statistical anomaly. As far as I can tell it just happens to be that this cycle of elections included a lot of 'Labour' areas; hence they look so strong. The national picture is more balanced when you include the areas that didn't vote this time.

[TightEnd]

Labour missed Corbyn's targets: analysis by Gary Gibbon c4

https://www.channel4.com/news/by/gary-gibbon/blogs/local-election-votes-and-brexit-committee-penalty-shoot-out …

[TightEnd]

losing Barnet candidate for labour on how the national Labour leadership is pushing voters away,

[TightEnd]

The local election results show Britain is still divided by leave v remain. It’s time for Corbyn to come off the fence

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/04/labour-fudge-brexit-local-elections-leave-remain-corbyn?CMP=twt_gu

[TightEnd]

Editorial: How can this disunited kingdom be brought back together?

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/editorials/local-elections-theresa-may-jeremy-corbyn-leadership-brexit-a8336631.html

[TightEnd]

UH OH

Brilliant scoop

Officials in the Northern Ireland Executive have prepared papers describing border checks at the Irish Sea as "infinitely preferable" to a land border between NI and RoI.

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/04/irish-border-backup-plan-suggests-checks-ports-airports-brexit?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other&__twitter_impression=true

[kukushkin88]

I don’t really understand this local election stuff but looking at the numbers on bbc news labour have more seats than everyone else combined. What does that mean?

I think it's a statistical anomaly. As far as I can tell it just happens to be that this cycle of elections included a lot of 'Labour' areas; hence they look so strong. The national picture is more balanced when you include the areas that didn't vote this time.

I'm interested in this. I'm sure we only ever see results with loads more Labour councils/councillors, Google (Woodsey ;-) suggests this is bollocks. Does anyone have insight on this? Tighty maybe?

[Woodsey]

I don’t really understand this local election stuff but looking at the numbers on bbc news labour have more seats than everyone else combined. What does that mean?

I think it's a statistical anomaly. As far as I can tell it just happens to be that this cycle of elections included a lot of 'Labour' areas; hence they look so strong. The national picture is more balanced when you include the areas that didn't vote this time.

I'm interested in this. I'm sure we only ever see results with loads more Labour councils/councillors, Google (Woodsey ;-) suggests this is bollocks. Does anyone have insight on this? Tighty maybe?

If you had even bothered with google you would have found out in less than 10 seconds 

[kukushkin88]

I don’t really understand this local election stuff but looking at the numbers on bbc news labour have more seats than everyone else combined. What does that mean?

I think it's a statistical anomaly. As far as I can tell it just happens to be that this cycle of elections included a lot of 'Labour' areas; hence they look so strong. The national picture is more balanced when you include the areas that didn't vote this time.

I'm interested in this. I'm sure we only ever see results with loads more Labour councils/councillors, Google (Woodsey ;-) suggests this is bollocks. Does anyone have insight on this? Tighty maybe?

If you had even bothered with google you would have found out in less than 10 seconds 

Good afternoon,

Maybe read my post again, a little more slowly. Looks like you've missed the 2nd sentence, the only remotely important one, completely.

[kukushkin88]

I don’t really understand this local election stuff but looking at the numbers on bbc news labour have more seats than everyone else combined. What does that mean?

I think it's a statistical anomaly. As far as I can tell it just happens to be that this cycle of elections included a lot of 'Labour' areas; hence they look so strong. The national picture is more balanced when you include the areas that didn't vote this time.

I'm interested in this. I'm sure we only ever see results with loads more Labour councils/councillors, Google (Woodsey ;-) suggests this is bollocks. Does anyone have insight on this? Tighty maybe?

If you had even bothered with google you would have found out in less than 10 seconds 

Good afternoon,

Maybe read my post again, a little more slowly. Looks like you've missed the 2nd sentence, the only remotely important one, completely.

Doesn't look like sentence 3 got much of a look in either... or 4. So all you've got is "I'm interested in this". :-)

[Jon MW]

I don’t really understand this local election stuff but looking at the numbers on bbc news labour have more seats than everyone else combined. What does that mean?

I think it's a statistical anomaly. As far as I can tell it just happens to be that this cycle of elections included a lot of 'Labour' areas; hence they look so strong. The national picture is more balanced when you include the areas that didn't vote this time.

I'm interested in this. I'm sure we only ever see results with loads more Labour councils/councillors, Google (Woodsey ;-) suggests this is bollocks. Does anyone have insight on this? Tighty maybe?

If you had even bothered with google you would have found out in less than 10 seconds  

Good afternoon,

Maybe read my post again, a little more slowly. Looks like you've missed the 2nd sentence, the only remotely important one, completely.

Doesn't look like sentence 3 got much of a look in either... or 4. So all you've got is "I'm interested in this". :-)

I haven't checked it's accuracy, but scanning over it and it's references it looks reasonable
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_make-up_of_local_councils_in_the_United_Kingdom

I think we tend to see Labour looking slightly better than Conservatives because local elections swing away from the party in power and people tend to remember what happens most recently.

The issue with Labour is the Conservatives should be losing 100's of seats at these elections and not dozens.

[kukushkin88]

I don’t really understand this local election stuff but looking at the numbers on bbc news labour have more seats than everyone else combined. What does that mean?

I think it's a statistical anomaly. As far as I can tell it just happens to be that this cycle of elections included a lot of 'Labour' areas; hence they look so strong. The national picture is more balanced when you include the areas that didn't vote this time.

I'm interested in this. I'm sure we only ever see results with loads more Labour councils/councillors, Google (Woodsey ;-) suggests this is bollocks. Does anyone have insight on this? Tighty maybe?

If you had even bothered with google you would have found out in less than 10 seconds  

Good afternoon,

Maybe read my post again, a little more slowly. Looks like you've missed the 2nd sentence, the only remotely important one, completely.

Doesn't look like sentence 3 got much of a look in either... or 4. So all you've got is "I'm interested in this". :-)

I haven't checked it's accuracy, but scanning over it and it's references it looks reasonable
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_make-up_of_local_councils_in_the_United_Kingdom

I think we tend to see Labour looking slightly better than Conservatives because local elections swing away from the party in power and people tend to remember what happens most recently.

The issue with Labour is the Conservatives should be losing 100's of seats at these elections and not dozens.

Thanks, looks a solid source. The last sentence, I completely agree, I guess we disagree as to why.

[TightEnd]

If this doesn't win over Nuneaton and Dudley, i don't know what will....

John McDonnell speaking at the Marx 200 conference on “Marxism as a force for change today.”

[TightEnd]

Here are a couple of ways to benchmark the Projected National Shares

A dead heat a year after a GE defeat is pretty far for the course, for an opposition heading for another defeat. Smith in 1993 and Cameron in 2006 won the PNS comfortably

Secondly But what about the swing to the opposition from the previous GE? On that basis last week's result looks rather worse for Labour – 1.2% would be the smallest progress since the series began