The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[kukushkin88]

The current attitude of [X] to immigration is...

Conservatives:
Too strict: 21%
Not strict enough: 44%
About right: 15%

Labour:
Too strict: 3%
Not strict enough: 48%
About right: 24%

via @YouGov

That's really interesting

Interesting that YouGov is a Conservative organisation and it perfectly fits their narrative. Just looks extremely unreliable to me.

[nirvana]

The current attitude of [X] to immigration is...

Conservatives:
Too strict: 21%
Not strict enough: 44%
About right: 15%

Labour:
Too strict: 3%
Not strict enough: 48%
About right: 24%

via @YouGov

That's really interesting

Interesting that YouGov is a Conservative organisation and it perfectly fits their narrative. Just looks extremely unreliable to me.

Maybe, i suppose it depends if they weighted the poll to the illiberal working class 'traditional' labour voter from  Birmingham up or labour luvvies dahn sahf with jobs and houses. Most Tories I know are pretty liberal when they're not shooting foxes and stuff

[TightEnd]

Lord Patten on Jacob Rees-Mogg comments about the Lords "playing with fire",

 "I'll tell you what playing with fire is - blundering into Northern Ireland with a policy which is clueless and deluded with a can of petrol and a box of matches in the other hand"

[TightEnd]

Why the Lords are right to apply the brakes on a train-crash Brexit

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/02/lords-train-crash-brexit-unelected-wreckers-democracy?CMP=twt_gu

[TightEnd]

This piece gives you a taste of how the early election has changed Brexit

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6189793/we-dont-need-a-customs-union/

[TightEnd]

The Brexit delusion -A really good read

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/the-brexit-delusion/

[TightEnd]

Cambridge Analytica closing after Facebook data harvesting scandal

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/02/cambridge-analytica-closing-down-after-facebook-row-reports-say?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_b-gdnnews#link_time=1525290649

[TightEnd]

So, 1 year & 43 weeks after EU referendum, with 300 days until UK becomes a third country under EU law, Government can’t decide between 2 options already rejected by the other side of the negotiation, and not backed by business, and for which it may not get Parliamentary support

The Chief Whip has told Cabinet colleagues that the government DOES NOT have the vote to defeat a customs union amendment

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/mayday-how-theresa-may-has-been-trapped-by-her-enemies-and-her-friends/

[TightEnd]

The Brexiteers might have a majority in the inner cabinet but they don't have one in the Commons or among EU members

the key point!

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2018/05/how-sajid-javid-helped-brexiteers-scupper-theresa-may-s-eu-customs-plan

[TightEnd]

In a ComRes poll shortly after the Brexit Referendum in July 2016 just 35% of Leave voters expected to leave the single market

89% expected limits to free movement; poss not realising it's a condition of the single market!

[neeko]

Yesterday the 3 big srories were

1. TSB computer failure
2. NHS breast cancer computer problems
3. NI brexit problems going to be solved by computers and BLOCKCHAIN

Do politicians even believe the words they say?

[TightEnd]

Conservatives win the expectation management game in disappointing night for Labour

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/conservatives-win-the-expectation-management-game-in-disappointing-night-for-labour/

[tikay]

Conservatives win the expectation management game in disappointing night for Labour

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/conservatives-win-the-expectation-management-game-in-disappointing-night-for-labour/

It was even more disappointing for UKIP.

Bye bye UKIP?

[TightEnd]

Conservatives win the expectation management game in disappointing night for Labour

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/conservatives-win-the-expectation-management-game-in-disappointing-night-for-labour/

It was even more disappointing for UKIP.

Bye bye UKIP?

Some of the more notable Tory advances:

Dudley -70% Leave
Nuneaton 65% Leave
Peterborough -62% Leave
Epping Forest -61% Leave
Basildon -67% Leave
Havant -62% Leave
Amber Valley -65% Leave
Bolton -60%ish Leave
Castle Point -73% Leave
Cannock Chase -69% Leave

no need to vote UKIP now

[TightEnd]

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