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« Reply #22890 on: October 06, 2020, 07:07:34 AM »

Didn't think of staff, mebbe they do catch it from the wrong uns

From what I understood Sainsbury's announcement about safe places for black people was only about staff.

I thought it was along the same lines as when other employers declare themselves LGBT friendly.

I had the thought to actually have a look and this is a quote from Sainsbury.
"The “safe spaces” we created in response to the Black Lives Matter movement were online support groups that helped our black colleagues come together, share their experiences and support one another."

So that's pretty clear - it was for staff only and it was basically for online chats.
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« Reply #22891 on: October 06, 2020, 09:13:53 AM »



Slight detour - someone who is a victim of domestic violence definitely does need a safe space, probably not in the supermarket especially - it's shocking the level of misogyny and domestic violence that this country tolerates and the lack of seriousness with which we take it in terms of protecting women.



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« Reply #22892 on: October 06, 2020, 09:30:45 AM »

Didn't think of staff, mebbe they do catch it from the wrong uns

From what I understood Sainsbury's announcement about safe places for black people was only about staff.

I thought it was along the same lines as when other employers declare themselves LGBT friendly.

I had the thought to actually have a look and this is a quote from Sainsbury.
"The “safe spaces” we created in response to the Black Lives Matter movement were online support groups that helped our black colleagues come together, share their experiences and support one another."

So that's pretty clear - it was for staff only and it was basically for online chats.


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It seems a strange thing for a non racist to lose his mind over.  He is getting sued for defamation now allegedly.  Suppose there will be plenty of gofundmes for this shitshow.  I'd like to believe that nobody would seriously believe that his adversaries were really paedophiles, but then you read some of the stuff that Lozza's supporters believe already.
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« Reply #22893 on: October 06, 2020, 09:46:59 AM »

Didn't think of staff, mebbe they do catch it from the wrong uns

From what I understood Sainsbury's announcement about safe places for black people was only about staff.

I thought it was along the same lines as when other employers declare themselves LGBT friendly.

I had the thought to actually have a look and this is a quote from Sainsbury.
"The “safe spaces” we created in response to the Black Lives Matter movement were online support groups that helped our black colleagues come together, share their experiences and support one another."

So that's pretty clear - it was for staff only and it was basically for online chats.


Thanks

It seems a strange thing for a non racist to lose his mind over.  He is getting sued for defamation now allegedly.  Suppose there will be plenty of gofundmes for this shitshow.  I'd like to believe that nobody would seriously believe that his adversaries were really paedophiles, but then you read some of the stuff that Lozza's supporters believe already.

Can he not counter sue based on the fact he is not racist just like they are not paedophiles? Was that not his point?

His stand point on boycotting Sainsbury's is stupid not racist, just like the people calling him a racist are stupid not paedophiles?
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« Reply #22894 on: October 06, 2020, 09:50:16 AM »

Didn't think of staff, mebbe they do catch it from the wrong uns

From what I understood Sainsbury's announcement about safe places for black people was only about staff.

I thought it was along the same lines as when other employers declare themselves LGBT friendly.

I had the thought to actually have a look and this is a quote from Sainsbury.
"The “safe spaces” we created in response to the Black Lives Matter movement were online support groups that helped our black colleagues come together, share their experiences and support one another."

So that's pretty clear - it was for staff only and it was basically for online chats.


Thanks. Doobs had already helped me re frame to think about staff. Pretty much what every major company does but perhaps wrapped up in statements around work place bullying, ethics, lookout programmes while stopping short of specifically safe spaces for a particular group identity.
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« Reply #22895 on: October 06, 2020, 10:35:31 AM »

Didn't think of staff, mebbe they do catch it from the wrong uns

From what I understood Sainsbury's announcement about safe places for black people was only about staff.

I thought it was along the same lines as when other employers declare themselves LGBT friendly.

I had the thought to actually have a look and this is a quote from Sainsbury.
"The “safe spaces” we created in response to the Black Lives Matter movement were online support groups that helped our black colleagues come together, share their experiences and support one another."

So that's pretty clear - it was for staff only and it was basically for online chats.


Thanks

It seems a strange thing for a non racist to lose his mind over.  He is getting sued for defamation now allegedly.  Suppose there will be plenty of gofundmes for this shitshow.  I'd like to believe that nobody would seriously believe that his adversaries were really paedophiles, but then you read some of the stuff that Lozza's supporters believe already.

Can he not counter sue based on the fact he is not racist just like they are not paedophiles? Was that not his point?

His stand point on boycotting Sainsbury's is stupid not racist, just like the people calling him a racist are stupid not paedophiles?

I don't know on the counter sue point.  I wouldn't have responded to his boycott post by saying he was a racist **** and like you, think both Fox and his adversary were both guilty of overreacting.  You can't defame someone with the truth and I think it is probably easier for his adversary to prepare a truth defense based on things Lozza has done than it is the other way round.   

I probably view more people as racist than most though.
 
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« Reply #22896 on: October 16, 2020, 12:17:28 PM »

The oven was not quite ready

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Boris Johnson says the UK must prepared for no trade deal with the EU from Jan 1

Says EU not willing to give UK a Canada style deal

If the EU comes back "with a fundamental change of opinion" then the UK will listen. But says that doesn't sound likely after the summit
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« Reply #22897 on: October 16, 2020, 01:34:31 PM »

The oven was not quite ready

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Boris Johnson says the UK must prepared for no trade deal with the EU from Jan 1

Says EU not willing to give UK a Canada style deal

If the EU comes back "with a fundamental change of opinion" then the UK will listen. But says that doesn't sound likely after the summit

Rate they are going with the f ups Corbyn could got elected of he stayed on. 
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« Reply #22898 on: October 16, 2020, 02:15:23 PM »

The oven was not quite ready

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Boris Johnson says the UK must prepared for no trade deal with the EU from Jan 1

Says EU not willing to give UK a Canada style deal

If the EU comes back "with a fundamental change of opinion" then the UK will listen. But says that doesn't sound likely after the summit

Rate they are going with the f ups Corbyn could got elected of he stayed on. 

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« Reply #22899 on: October 16, 2020, 02:19:34 PM »

An Australia deal is a deal, and much like Canada requires state aid.

The PM is conflating no deal with an 'Australia deal' and hoping people don't notice. (and it seems to be working!)

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A really grim winter ahead unfortunately
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« Reply #22900 on: October 16, 2020, 02:22:21 PM »

2021 will also be a year where they can bury bad recessions, it's been a longheld suspicion by some commentators that the government would be able to mask financial impacts of a no deal behind the recession caused by covid.
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« Reply #22901 on: October 16, 2020, 02:33:06 PM »

Australia wants a free trade deal with the EU because it's unhappy with the current arrangement !

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-australia/britain-open-to-aussie-style-eu-trade-deal-but-australia-wants-more-idUKKBN26Q0N5
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« Reply #22902 on: October 18, 2020, 10:14:14 AM »

"London is behaving exactly as you'd expect if it was preparing to sell a compromise involving painful concessions as a hard won triumph.

That doesn't guarantee that's the plan, but all the hysterics and drama would fit neatly into that script."

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/brussels-confident-post-brexit-trade-deal-is-increasingly-likely-1.4383290?mode=amp
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« Reply #22903 on: October 21, 2020, 05:24:42 PM »


Talks that were never really off are back on.

Frost

"We have agreed that a basis for negotiations with the EU & barnier has been re-established. Intensive talks will happen every day & begin tomorrow afternoon, 22 October, in London."

Fishing and state aid were the previous stumbling blocks

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« Reply #22904 on: October 23, 2020, 09:31:27 AM »

Still loving Marcus Rashford's work right now.

https://twitter.com/MarcusRashford?

A lot of these businesses offering help must have really struggled over the last few months.  Mumtaz used to be a really good curry, though I haven't been for years.  Will make an effort to visitif I get the chance when this blows over.

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