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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 55

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« Reply #3705 on: June 25, 2016, 10:45:26 PM »

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« Reply #3706 on: June 25, 2016, 10:48:41 PM »

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No doubt some will spin this as 'the old let down the young because they didn't encourage them to vote'
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« Reply #3707 on: June 25, 2016, 10:55:36 PM »

Thought the comment below summed it up well
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« Reply #3708 on: June 25, 2016, 10:56:45 PM »

On the bright side we might be able to afford a house in about 15 years. Young voters are disillusioned and people see it as a thing to celebrate because they are tired of the people who are actually engaged in politics being annoyed about a particular demographic. Spend all day talking about how you want to bring people together and how we are still Great whilst poking fun at the people that are angry.
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« Reply #3709 on: June 25, 2016, 11:01:39 PM »

If there were to be a 'Second bite of the cherry' referendum tomorrow, what do you think the result would be, and by what margin?

The difference, as has been pointed out, is the the Leave, had it lost, would have accepted it and carried on.

Because Leave have won, they have stopped campaigning and we forget(or not being constantly reminded of) the positives of leaving and all we have heard since are the negatives, so it would swing dissproportionally towards Remain, methinks.

Again, if we have a further referendum in the near future, there is very little point in calling ourselves a working democracy, and I would have said that if the result had been reversed.

Its a bit different as Leave would probably chase another opportunity in the next ten years and Remain will never get another opportunity. If there was another referendum and the country voted to Remain, isn't that better? The people who voted won't have called for a second referendum and people would obviously be very upset on the Leave side so it would definitely take a big change from the people for a second referendum to even do anything. Why are you valuing one referendum over another? Because it was first? Its not
like the 48% of the people who voted can demand a referendum and actually change the result.

What?

I'm not valuing one referendum over another. I'm not even sure what you are on about with that.

I was asked if I thought the vote was taken again today, would the result be different, and I said yes. End of. No valuing etc....

Based on some of the stuff I have read since the vote I have seen plenty get wobbly because of the continual whining and woah is us and I suspect they would be influenced. Nothing more, nothing less. Ty.
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« Reply #3710 on: June 25, 2016, 11:04:26 PM »

Tbf. The young are too naive to be allowed to vote. They don't even know what they don't know
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« Reply #3711 on: June 25, 2016, 11:07:04 PM »

If you don't have a GCSE in Maths and English grade C or above your vote should be burned
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« Reply #3712 on: June 25, 2016, 11:08:00 PM »

If there were to be a 'Second bite of the cherry' referendum tomorrow, what do you think the result would be, and by what margin?

The difference, as has been pointed out, is the the Leave, had it lost, would have accepted it and carried on.

Because Leave have won, they have stopped campaigning and we forget(or not being constantly reminded of) the positives of leaving and all we have heard since are the negatives, so it would swing dissproportionally towards Remain, methinks.

Again, if we have a further referendum in the near future, there is very little point in calling ourselves a working democracy, and I would have said that if the result had been reversed.

Its a bit different as Leave would probably chase another opportunity in the next ten years and Remain will never get another opportunity. If there was another referendum and the country voted to Remain, isn't that better? The people who voted won't have called for a second referendum and people would obviously be very upset on the Leave side so it would definitely take a big change from the people for a second referendum to even do anything. Why are you valuing one referendum over another? Because it was first? Its not
like the 48% of the people who voted can demand a referendum and actually change the result.

What?

I'm not valuing one referendum over another. I'm not even sure what you are on about with that.

I was asked if I thought the vote was taken again today, would the result be different, and I said yes. End of. No valuing etc....

Based on some of the stuff I have read since the vote I have seen plenty get wobbly because of the continual whining and woah is us and I suspect they would be influenced. Nothing more, nothing less. Ty.

Well one referendum is fine and one is the fall of a working democracy?
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« Reply #3713 on: June 25, 2016, 11:08:22 PM »

First poll in tomorrows Sunday Post has support for Scottish Independence now on 59%.
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« Reply #3714 on: June 25, 2016, 11:09:24 PM »

If you don't have a GCSE in Maths and English grade C or above your vote should be burned
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« Reply #3715 on: June 25, 2016, 11:10:16 PM »

First poll in tomorrows Sunday Post has support for Scottish Independence now on 59%.

Let the English vote to increase this I think
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« Reply #3716 on: June 25, 2016, 11:11:32 PM »

Christ could you imagine how nasty things would get if everyone in the UK got to vote on Scottish Independence?
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« Reply #3717 on: June 25, 2016, 11:11:47 PM »

If there were to be a 'Second bite of the cherry' referendum tomorrow, what do you think the result would be, and by what margin?

The difference, as has been pointed out, is the the Leave, had it lost, would have accepted it and carried on.

Because Leave have won, they have stopped campaigning and we forget(or not being constantly reminded of) the positives of leaving and all we have heard since are the negatives, so it would swing dissproportionally towards Remain, methinks.

Again, if we have a further referendum in the near future, there is very little point in calling ourselves a working democracy, and I would have said that if the result had been reversed.

Its a bit different as Leave would probably chase another opportunity in the next ten years and Remain will never get another opportunity. If there was another referendum and the country voted to Remain, isn't that better? The people who voted won't have called for a second referendum and people would obviously be very upset on the Leave side so it would definitely take a big change from the people for a second referendum to even do anything. Why are you valuing one referendum over another? Because it was first? Its not
like the 48% of the people who voted can demand a referendum and actually change the result.

What?

I'm not valuing one referendum over another. I'm not even sure what you are on about with that.

I was asked if I thought the vote was taken again today, would the result be different, and I said yes. End of. No valuing etc....

Based on some of the stuff I have read since the vote I have seen plenty get wobbly because of the continual whining and woah is us and I suspect they would be influenced. Nothing more, nothing less. Ty.

Well one referendum is fine and one is the fall of a working democracy?

Wtf?

It was a suppositional question. Several answered it.

Don't worry, I don't think it's really likely to happen......
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« Reply #3718 on: June 25, 2016, 11:11:53 PM »

If you don't have a GCSE in Maths and English grade C or above your vote should be burned

at least 2 people with a degree failed everyone of those people
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« Reply #3719 on: June 25, 2016, 11:15:10 PM »

First poll in tomorrows Sunday Post has support for Scottish Independence now on 59%.

Let the English vote to increase this I think

Boris gets my vote if he starts chanting "build a wall"
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