The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[TightEnd]

Tusk says expects A50 to be triggered Jan or Feb, single market and free movement cannot be split

As EU leaders prepare to meet in Bratislava without Britain, senior sources have told BuzzFeed News that the UK is pushing for separate negotiations on the two biggest issues.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/the-uk-wants-to-split-single-market-and-free-movement-into-s


Key points for EU-UK negotiations from the EU though:

1 free movement & single market inseparable

2 For EU, UK must be seen to "lose"

Point 2) isn't about punishment, it's about protecting the EU, which will be the 27's priority.

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[neeko]

All politicians must become more accurate in the way they describe things, North Korea has access to the EU  single market,  and the U.K. will as well, the question is what tarriffs,  customs, quotas,  beaurocracy (so) will be imposed as the price of that.

Politicians will be accurate as soon as they answer a question actually asked - about never.

[TightEnd]

very interesting interview with Alan Johnson out today

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[TightEnd]

much of the political class is still in denial about the consequences of Brexit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/07/westminster-has-yet-come-terms-consequences-brexit

[TightEnd]

Survation finds big move against Independence in latest Scottish poll

Yes 42% (-5)
No 48% (+7)

Changes from June 28

[TightEnd]

Shortbread, Ulysses and sex workers’ rights: when Mumsnet users grilled Jeremy Corbyn

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2016/09/shortbread-ulysses-and-sex-workers-rights-when-mumsnet-users-grilled-jeremy

[Doobs]

Panorama about labour infighting on right now (just starting).

[MintTrav]

Tim Farron at the Lib Dem Conference:

"Theresa May did so little in the Remain campaign that she actually made it seem like Jeremy Corbyn pulled a shift"

"Theresa May says Brexit means Brexit - well thanks for clearing that up!...................Please tell us what Brexit really means. You have had three months. You are the Prime Minister. Stop dithering. What is your plan?"

[nirvana]

Tim Farron at the Lib Dem Conference:

"Theresa May did so little in the Remain campaign that she actually made it seem like Jeremy Corbyn pulled a shift"

"Theresa May says Brexit means Brexit - well thanks for clearing that up!...................Please tell us what Brexit really means. You have had three months. You are the Prime Minister. Stop dithering. What is your plan?"

Hard for me to overcome his anti democratic little twittedness to acknowledge he has some fair points

[MintTrav]

Tim Farron at the Lib Dem Conference:

"Theresa May did so little in the Remain campaign that she actually made it seem like Jeremy Corbyn pulled a shift"

"Theresa May says Brexit means Brexit - well thanks for clearing that up!...................Please tell us what Brexit really means. You have had three months. You are the Prime Minister. Stop dithering. What is your plan?"

Hard for me to overcome his anti democratic little twittedness to acknowledge he has some fair points

You can't leave it at that. Give us a clue what you're talking about.

[neeko]

loving #askcarswell on twitter at the moment.

The ukip MP decided to lecture a physicist that the moon does not impact tides, it did not go well, so Twitter is asking him for some help with other science questions. 'Why do meteors always land in a crater?' 

[TightEnd]

Martin Wolf bleak about inevitability of a "hard" Brexit

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3328547a-7e3d-11e6-bc52-0c7211ef3198.html#axzz4KmZGM3oQ

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[TightEnd]

Council think tank predicts Labour under Corbyn 'going nowhere' in next yr's county elections - despite new members

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-2017-county-council-elections-local-government-information-unit_uk_57e0435de4b028e52a11bfc6?5lm8nc3yhjvm18aor

[TightEnd]

Nigel Farage needs to stop telling me why I voted for Brexit

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/20/nigel-farage-needs-to-stop-telling-me-why-i-voted-for-brexit/

[TightEnd]

QOTD from ex-Mrs Corbyn: "Are the politics of the 1970s relevant to the 21st Century and to post-Brexit Britain?"

Jane Chapman votes for Smith

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/news/79155/jeremy-corbyns-ex-wife-i-voted-owen-smith-labour