The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[Woodsey]

They may of course change in the future, but these two pie charts reveal one of UK's potential negotiating weak points

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What are our strong points Richard? 

[marcro]

An interesting view of the EU from the New York Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/28/opinion/why-brexit-is-best-for-britain-the-left-wing-case.html?emc=eta1&_r=1

[nirvana]

They may of course change in the future, but these two pie charts reveal one of UK's potential negotiating weak points

Click to see full-size image.

Apples and pears innit

[TightEnd]

They may of course change in the future, but these two pie charts reveal one of UK's potential negotiating weak points

Click to see full-size image.

What are our strong points Richard? 

size of our market for big players like car manufacturers
importance of our financial services industry/London to europe
they want £50 bn+ from us so a deal is in their interests

[nirvana]

I'm perhaps a 51% brexiteer and I imagine there are a lot.of 51% remainers. Don't the sky falling remainers (perhaps 10%) turn off all the marginal remainers hugely.

[Woodsey]

They may of course change in the future, but these two pie charts reveal one of UK's potential negotiating weak points

Click to see full-size image.

What are our strong points Richard? 

size of our market for big players like car manufacturers
importance of our financial services industry/London to europe
they want £50 bn+ from us so a deal is in their interests

Thanks, glad you found some at least!  

[Woodsey]

I'm perhaps a 51% brexiteer and I imagine there are a lot.of 51% remainers. Don't the sky falling remainers (perhaps 10%) turn off all the marginal remainers hugely.

I'm convinced it was the sky fallers that actually lost the referendum for them, a lot of the marginal voters just got pissed off with them.

[TightEnd]

I'm perhaps a 51% brexiteer and I imagine there are a lot.of 51% remainers. Don't the sky falling remainers (perhaps 10%) turn off all the marginal remainers hugely.

I'm convinced it was the sky fallers that actually lost the referendum for them, a lot of the marginal voters just got pissed off with them.

works both ways

the Brextremists are a real pain to listen to. all is milk and honey. ignore the facts, just want out/britain to return to 1956/less immigration*

*delete whatever isn''t applicable! 

[Woodsey]

I'm perhaps a 51% brexiteer and I imagine there are a lot.of 51% remainers. Don't the sky falling remainers (perhaps 10%) turn off all the marginal remainers hugely.

I'm convinced it was the sky fallers that actually lost the referendum for them, a lot of the marginal voters just got pissed off with them.

works both ways

the Brextremists are a real pain to listen to. all is milk and honey. ignore the facts, just want out/britain to return to 1956/less immigration*

*delete whatever isn''t applicable!  

Guess the remoaners were just that bit worse to force the balance away from them.

Anyway, The problem with a lot of the 'facts' is that they simply couldn't be facts unless they were done by time travellers who knew the outcomes of the deals negotiated with the EU after our exit.

[RED-DOG]

I'm perhaps a 51% brexiteer and I imagine there are a lot.of 51% remainers. Don't the sky falling remainers (perhaps 10%) turn off all the marginal remainers hugely.

I'm convinced it was the sky fallers that actually lost the referendum for them, a lot of the marginal voters just got pissed off with them.

works both ways

the Brextremists are a real pain to listen to. all is milk and honey. ignore the facts, just want out/britain to return to 1956/less immigration*

*delete whatever isn''t applicable!  

Guess the remoaners were just that bit worse to force the balance away from them.

Anyway, The problem with a lot of the 'facts' is that they simply couldn't be facts unless they were done by time travellers who knew the outcomes of the deals negotiated with the EU after our exit.

I already told you that tomorrow.

[TightEnd]

I'm perhaps a 51% brexiteer and I imagine there are a lot.of 51% remainers. Don't the sky falling remainers (perhaps 10%) turn off all the marginal remainers hugely.

I'm convinced it was the sky fallers that actually lost the referendum for them, a lot of the marginal voters just got pissed off with them.

works both ways

the Brextremists are a real pain to listen to. all is milk and honey. ignore the facts, just want out/britain to return to 1956/less immigration*

*delete whatever isn''t applicable! 

Guess the remoaners were just that bit worse to force the balance away from them.

Anyway, The problem with a lot of the 'facts' is that they simply couldn't be facts unless they were done by time travellers who knew the outcomes of the deals negotiated with the EU after our exit.

the remain campaign was terrible, generally agreed

the leave campaign could make promises, impugn the facts/economics/experts etc safe in the knowledge that hardlyany of them and espeially the cheerleaders like farage,banks would actually have to keep the promises

Boris J didn't even want to win, he went leave as a career move

I am not a huge historian, but couldn't think of a previous example where a major political leader actually has to negotiate a deal like this he/she doesn't believe in (and its striking that every single living prime minster thinks this is a mistake)

Anyway, its a fun time and guaranteed another 500 pages on here until March 2019!

[TightEnd]

i suppose this is what living in an ageing population mix means...

[TightEnd]

'Let go"

'I...can't...'

'It's ok, look at me...it's ok.'

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[nirvana]

Hopefully now this is settled we can support our team of negotiators and stop talking the nation down.

Iĺl set the tone 'Come on David, you can achieve great things'

Feel free to add your own messages of support.

[Woodsey]

Hopefully now this is settled we can support our team of negotiators and stop talking the nation down.

Iĺl set the tone 'Come on David, you can achieve great things'

Feel free to add your own messages of support.

I predict 80%+ Doom and gloom and whining still