The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

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Adam Boulton ‏@adamboultonSKY

I think this all makes President @realDonaldTrump much more likely

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Simon Schama ‏@simon_schama (the historian)

Ireland yes there will be a real border (or else all those terrible immigrants will come swarming across) bye bye peace

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Jon Snow ‏@jonsnowC4

Former Cabinet Secretary Gus O'Donnell: 'It took Greenland three years to leave the EU and they only had one issue to negotiate - fish'

 

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Tim Montgomerie ن@montie

Omigod. Third Farage speech of night. We need other faces of #Brexit out there quickly. The 48% need to be reassured, not frightened.


(He has a point)

[Cf]

My understanding of politics isn't great but my impression is the Tories promised this referendum in an effort to win votes thinking there's no way it'd actually pass. Has there ever been a fuck up so big?

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My understanding of politics isn't great but my impression is the Tories promised this referendum in an effort to win votes thinking there's no way it'd actually pass. Has there ever been a fuck up so big?

basically correct. cameron had to promise it in 2015 to head off defectors in his party

a huge self inflicted own goal is the result. cameron will be like chamberlain (ww2)  and eden (suez) remembered for a massive fuck up, nothing else

his misjudgements

a) strength of anti establishment feeling amongst other factors (workers rights, immigration etc), a global phenomenon
b) tory vote was always going to be leave, but the labour vote was a remain "given". then corbyn (eurosceptic at best, and not someone who connected with labour provincial voters on this evidence, they voted ukip in effect) was elected. the labour vote didn't get remain over the line

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Oh dear. I hope we're not quite as fucked as I think we are :/

What are the worst 3 things that can happen to the UK  now?

recession

structural rise in far right influence on politics

compromises on trade deals that mean tariffs and multinationals leaving the uk and leading to a structural rise in unemployment


there will be more, but i am tired

[PokerBroker]

Why is Dave hiding and not facing his public? 

Sure, he was out that front door chirping like a wee bird when the Scottish Referendum was on. 

I'm content with my decision to vote out, but thedisgust I have for Farage is growing every time I see hs face appear on the telly. I hope this is now the end for him.  He serves no purpose now. 

[RickBFA]

Wow.

You have to wonder what will happen to the EU, Germany and France must be crapping themselves.

Donald Tusk just made a statement "we are determined to keep the unity of the other 27 members"

Could be like dominos falling. Holland next to demand a referendum? Could be the beginning of the end?

[DaveShoelace]

I'm content with my decision to vote out, but thedisgust I have for Farage is growing every time I see hs face appear on the telly. I hope this is now the end for him.  He serves no purpose now. 

Think you are gonna be disappointed, Sky just called him the most important politician of the last 40 years, reckon we'll see a lot of him in years to come.

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Why is Dave hiding and not facing his public? 

Sure, he was out that front door chirping like a wee bird when the Scottish Referendum was on. 

I'm content with my decision to vote out, but thedisgust I have for Farage is growing every time I see hs face appear on the telly. I hope this is now the end for him.  He serves no purpose now. 

why would it be the end for Farage? its only beginning......

Cameron is speaking shortly. Has to stay a while for the "national good", probably wants to resign today

[BigAdz]

A lot of this guff is a self fulfilling prophecy.

If we keep asking big business if it will stay, it will question our confidence.

Time to knuckle down and get on with it.


NB. Love all the remain posters on social media yesterday when the result looked to be going their way, saying let's put it all behind us, let's all be friends again etc. Different kettle of fish today now the result gone against them, with lots of name calling and idiots win out stuff.

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for the hardcore reader

Brexit: Legally and constitutionally, what now?

https://publiclawforeveryone.com/2016/06/24/brexit-legally-and-constitutionally-what-now/

[AndrewT]

Barclays, Lloyds and RBS open down 30-35%!!

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at the open

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Barclays, Lloyds and RBS open down 30-35%!!

under article 50 banks who want to do business across the single market cannot headquarter outside it, ie london in 2 years time

so its a huge headache for them, to have to change domicile and a big headache for the HMRC for tax revenue, and likely big job lossess

say goodbye to any hopes of london being the global financial centre too

(people might say so what, they are wankers, but its a huge slug of our GDP)