The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[Doobs]

FTSE bouncing back already.  Dollar back to 1.38 already.  Business as usual.

It feels like Remainers actually want something bad to happen, just to give us the old told you so routine.

Lets just get along and get along

One good thing to come out of this.   Arbboy and Adz have kissed and made up.  

[DungBeetle]

FTSE bouncing back already.  Dollar back to 1.38 already.  Business as usual.

It feels like Remainers actually want something bad to happen, just to give us the old told you so routine.

Lets just get along and get along

One good thing to come out of this.   Arbboy and Adz have kissed and made up.  

It's like one of those sports films where 2 veteran adversaries realise if they work together they can make something special happen for the team.  Throw in some uplifting music and it's moving stuff.

[TightEnd]

FTSE bouncing back already.  Dollar back to 1.38 already.  Business as usual.

no this is artificial .BOE liquidity support. Way too early to tell if this is a hard or soft transition

Tighty,

I can see how the BOE could support sterling but they cant support share prices with inventions.

Yes, the sterling and bond markets are supported, and the "confidence" this engenders in GB assets supports equities

Back in the old days when i was in the industry, the traders would get word that Cazenove, say, were in the market operating for the BOE and these days when that happens shorts get squeezed as it becomes more difficult to stand in the way of asset support when so much of the trading flow is speculative/short term

[arbboy]

Anyone getting sick of listening to this 'the kids knew 73% voted remain, the baby boomers have ruined it for the future etc'.  Since when has the youth of today suddenly been so clued up about since big decisions that they have got it right and everyone else who is more experienced in life has got it so badly wrong?

[TightEnd]

Anyone getting sick of listening to this 'the kids knew 73% voted remain etc'.  Since when has the youth of today suddenly been so clued up about since big decisions that they have got it right and everyone else who is more experienced in life has got it so badly wrong?

it just reflects that by and large they are optimistic, multi-cultural, inclusive..only ever known the eu, broad based immigration etc. so likely to vote remain

it just so happens that there is a big contrast under 30s and over 60s, in part borne of life experiences broadly (suppression of wage growth, changed industries due to globalisation, changed communities etc etc)  as some older voters hark back to a different time

and a bigger set of voters seem to be cynical about elites, politics etc...a cynicism (possibly correct) and scepticism (certainly widespread) which the young voters (generalising) don't have yet

[DungBeetle]

Anyone getting sick of listening to this 'the kids knew 73% voted remain etc'.  Since when has the youth of today suddenly been so clued up about since big decisions that they have got it right and everyone else who is more experienced in life has got it so badly wrong?

Yep.  Especially when some people seemingly want to abolish one person one vote because remain lost.

[DaveShoelace]

FTSE bouncing back already.  Dollar back to 1.38 already.  Business as usual.

It feels like Remainers actually want something bad to happen, just to give us the old told you so routine.

Lets just get along and get along

One good thing to come out of this.   Arbboy and Adz have kissed and made up.  

It's like one of those sports films where 2 veteran adversaries realise if they work together they can make something special happen for the team.  Throw in some uplifting music and it's moving stuff.

[lucky_scrote]

Anyone getting sick of listening to this 'the kids knew 73% voted remain, the baby boomers have ruined it for the future etc'.  Since when has the youth of today suddenly been so clued up about since big decisions that they have got it right and everyone else who is more experienced in life has got it so badly wrong?

As a "young" person I would like to chime in. Quite clearly the vote was very close and the nation has been divided. The single thing that annoys me about this whole campaign is that such a gross proportion of people that voted "leave" don't know what they are voting for. Nobody has a fucking clue what is going on at the moment, there is just lots of skepticism.

In response to what I have said above, I think the smarter vote is to remain because of the uncertainty. That is literally the only reason I would vote remain, I cannot distinguish the bullshit and propaganda from the truth among the campaigning so it feels way too risky to change something so great, especially when there is no immediate threat in our country.

When I woke up this morning, I hoped for terrible things to happen in the future just so I can say "told you so", but I don't think the public that voted leave is at fault at all. People are quite compassionate about their own country (rightly so) and feel the need to stand up for themselves in some way.

[TightEnd]

I am surprised there seems to be so little "leave" contingency planning by the govt

the FT

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[TightEnd]

this is a controversial one. think many on the left would disagree with this, saying it was an anti establishment vote not a pro ukip vote?

A new home for Old Labour — with the Tory right http://specc.ie/293TMZZ

[TightEnd]

Brexit is the stuff of nightmares - removing Jeremy Corbyn won't help says this article

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/06/brexit-stuff-nightmares-removing-jeremy-corbyn-wont-help

[TightEnd]

you wouldn't expect the economist to be positive

have a stiff drink handy for this one

"Giant, nation-changing misstep...to scar the country for decades," Cameron "leaves office in ignominy."

http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2016/06/prime-minister-resigns

[TightEnd]

i had to laugh

Victoria Derbyshire was doing a voter voxpop from Manchester this morning..how did people vote, and why etc etc

A Leave voter on the programme: "I thought remain would win. I didn't think my vote would mean anything. I'm quite worried now."

there is a fun one from heathrow where a lady is interviewed on channel five too. if i find it i will put it up

[TightEnd]

this is another FT one

probably get derided by some but here it is

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[TightEnd]

Divided Britain: how the EU referendum exposed Britain’s new culture war.

hampstead v hull is the theme of this one

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/06/divided-britain-how-referendum-exposed-britains-culture-war