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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 55

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« Reply #9765 on: June 09, 2017, 09:08:51 AM »

McDonnell and Corbyn are now going on about forming a minority government without any coalitions - how is this possible? By what metric can they argue this when they have lower popular vote and decidely less seats?
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« Reply #9766 on: June 09, 2017, 09:17:01 AM »

McDonnell and Corbyn are now going on about forming a minority government without any coalitions - how is this possible? By what metric can they argue this when they have lower popular vote and decidely less seats?

The Queen has the power to say yes or no.  I am sure she'll get (legal advice) before agreeing.  I am pretty sure she'll be advised to listen to Theresa May's proposals for forming a government first.
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« Reply #9767 on: June 09, 2017, 09:27:22 AM »

McDonnell and Corbyn are now going on about forming a minority government without any coalitions - how is this possible? By what metric can they argue this when they have lower popular vote and decidely less seats?

The Queen has the power to say yes or no.  I am sure she'll get (legal advice) before agreeing.  I am pretty sure she'll be advised to listen to Theresa May's proposals for forming a government first.

Yeah I vaguely remember her having that power now you mention it from the last coalition. Quite worrying actually that a monarch has that power.
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« Reply #9768 on: June 09, 2017, 09:29:58 AM »

McDonnell and Corbyn are now going on about forming a minority government without any coalitions - how is this possible? By what metric can they argue this when they have lower popular vote and decidely less seats?

The Queen has the power to say yes or no.  I am sure she'll get (legal advice) before agreeing.  I am pretty sure she'll be advised to listen to Theresa May's proposals for forming a government first.

Yeah I vaguely remember her having that power now you mention it from the last coalition. Quite worrying actually that a monarch has that power.

The largest party will be asked to form a government unless there's clear evidence that they won't be able to govern; so don't think it's relevant what Labour say. Even if DUP didn't agree to support them I'd assume the Conservatives would give it a go.


EDIT: I notice they were just replying to questions from journalists; basically journalists creating a non-story then - asking if they'd do something they won't have the opportunity to do.
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« Reply #9769 on: June 09, 2017, 09:32:02 AM »

This is it for IndyRef 2 then surely?

Yeah, dead in the water for the foreseeable future, Yes vote would obviously lose so why go for it.

SLAB won 7 seats despite Kezia Dugdale, Corbyn should bin her, she gave him no support whatsoever and is generally woeful.
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« Reply #9770 on: June 09, 2017, 09:39:36 AM »

Betfred have year of next general election 2017 at 11/10.

Doesn't an autumn general election look a strong possibility?

I thought it would be odds on.

EDIT Hills have 2017 general election at 4/7, so 11/10 looks a big price to me.
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« Reply #9771 on: June 09, 2017, 09:53:37 AM »

Betfred have year of next general election 2017 at 11/10.

Doesn't an autumn general election look a strong possibility?

I thought it would be odds on.

EDIT Hills have 2017 general election at 4/7, so 11/10 looks a big price to me.

I doubt they'll lay it for proper money. If it's still there at lunchtime, I'll have a go at finding out.
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« Reply #9772 on: June 09, 2017, 10:01:38 AM »

High 5 Jeremy?



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« Reply #9773 on: June 09, 2017, 10:02:08 AM »

High 5 Jeremy?





Saw this on the news, made me laugh
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« Reply #9774 on: June 09, 2017, 10:04:37 AM »

Betfred have year of next general election 2017 at 11/10.

Doesn't an autumn general election look a strong possibility?

I thought it would be odds on.

EDIT Hills have 2017 general election at 4/7, so 11/10 looks a big price to me.

I doubt they'll lay it for proper money. If it's still there at lunchtime, I'll have a go at finding out.

Perhaps £50-£100 on in a shop?

Sonour is the expert, she will know.
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« Reply #9775 on: June 09, 2017, 10:05:19 AM »

What I don't get is why is it that when we have a result like this, the Pound loses value against the Dollar (and Euro) yet when the US elected a mad man, despite all he does and has to be on the verge of impeachment, it doesn't affect the Dollar rate at all.
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« Reply #9776 on: June 09, 2017, 10:05:39 AM »

I think it's fair to say that most of the Labour surge is down to Corbyn(?)

But he's pretty old - if the Conservatives aren't forced to hold one early, is he even going to stand in the next general election?

And the important bit - after he leaves, who has Labour got to keep hold of his momentum?
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« Reply #9777 on: June 09, 2017, 10:12:44 AM »

Rees mogg please as PM.  Proper brexit supporter.  Smart guy.  1000/1 is virtually gone on the machine.
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« Reply #9778 on: June 09, 2017, 10:18:19 AM »

Betfred have year of next general election 2017 at 11/10.

Doesn't an autumn general election look a strong possibility?

I thought it would be odds on.

EDIT Hills have 2017 general election at 4/7, so 11/10 looks a big price to me.

I doubt they'll lay it for proper money. If it's still there at lunchtime, I'll have a go at finding out.

Perhaps £50-£100 on in a shop?

Sonour is the expert, she will know.

Can easily get 11/10 on betfair on a market that isn't tight for a few hundred quid.  Probably get 5/4 if you ask for it and wait.
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« Reply #9779 on: June 09, 2017, 10:26:20 AM »

Rees mogg please as PM.  Proper brexit supporter.  Smart guy.  1000/1 is virtually gone on the machine.

Smart guy but seen as a classic privately educated Toryboy. They need to find someone to engage with voters of all ages and backgrounds.



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