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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 55

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« Reply #10575 on: July 24, 2017, 06:57:59 AM »
IMF cuts 2017 growth forecasts for UK and US

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jul/24/imf-cuts-2017-growth-forecasts-uk-us-economy-trump-tax-cuts?CMP=twt_gu
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« Reply #10576 on: July 24, 2017, 07:50:31 AM »
In the Tory Game of Thrones, everyone is ignoring the advance of the White Walkers from Brussels

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/07/tory-game-thrones-everyone-ignoring-advance-white-walkers-brussels
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« Reply #10577 on: July 24, 2017, 10:22:17 PM »
http://www.businessinsider.com/unemployment-in-the-uk-is-now-so-low-its-in-danger-of-exposing-the-lie-used-to-create-the-numbers-2017-7?r=UK&IR=T

What do people make of this?
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« Reply #10578 on: July 24, 2017, 11:48:55 PM »
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What will Jeremy Corbyn do next? Analysis of where the leadership and Labour MPs are as recess starts

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/07/what-will-jeremy-corbyn-do-next/

"The risk for Corbyn is that in pursuing greater power within his party, he undermines his bid for power in government. It will be much more difficult for the Labour party to get its message across if the press – local and national – is full of stories about attempts by Labour party members to oust sitting Labour MPs, or indeed rows between the factions in the party. If he is serious about winning an election, and his plans for the next few months suggest that he is, he may have to abandon some of the reforms that his own allies are pushing him for."

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Corbyn should definitely listen to the very same pundits who predicted a Tory majority of over 100 in the election.
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« Reply #10579 on: July 25, 2017, 07:36:47 AM »
Liam Fox in Washington to kick off US trade talks http://bit.ly/2gWihjt
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« Reply #10580 on: July 25, 2017, 07:37:39 AM »
New IpsosMORI poll shows highest support for Single Market membership over Brexit since the EU Ref

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brits-keener-on-single-market-access-than-full-immigration-control-brexit-poll-shows-a3594611.html
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« Reply #10581 on: July 25, 2017, 07:38:04 AM »
What Jeremy Corbyn gets right about the single market, by stephenkb

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2017/07/what-jeremy-corbyn-gets-right-about-single-market
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« Reply #10582 on: July 25, 2017, 07:38:30 AM »
Westminster voting intention:

LAB: 43% (-2)
CON: 41% (+1)
LDEM: 6% (-1)
UKIP: 3% (+1)
GRN: 2% (+1)

(via @YouGov, 18 - 19 Jul)
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« Reply #10583 on: July 25, 2017, 07:39:11 AM »
"If we cancel Brexit we destroy ourselves; if we go ahead, we destroy the country.' Minister to Rachel Sylvester

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b34e93c0-707d-11e7-8eac-856e9b33761e

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« Reply #10584 on: July 25, 2017, 07:45:02 AM »
Im not seeing much on here about the Corbyn apparent U turn on tuition fees.

What did he actually say?
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« Reply #10585 on: July 25, 2017, 08:04:07 AM »
It's because he hasn't u-turned on anything so there isn't really any story.
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« Reply #10586 on: July 25, 2017, 08:10:28 AM »
Reality bites: the Brexit negotiations seen from the other side of the Channel by Fabian Zuleeg

http://www.epc.eu/pub_details.php?cat_id=4&pub_id=7865
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« Reply #10587 on: July 25, 2017, 08:11:31 AM »
Quote from: Cf on July 25, 2017, 08:04:07 AM
It's because he hasn't u-turned on anything so there isn't really any story.

Much rests on the word "could", which isn't "will"
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« Reply #10588 on: July 25, 2017, 08:14:43 AM »
Quote from: Cf on July 25, 2017, 08:04:07 AM
It's because he hasn't u-turned on anything so there isn't really any story.


I thought he was on tv at the weekend saying he wasn't going to repay fees? Didn't see it but just saw some sound bites.

Wasn't that half the reason he did so well?


Just seen your next post.

Have to say, that's a lot like blaming people for believing Farage and his NHS claim.
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« Reply #10589 on: July 25, 2017, 08:27:32 AM »
Quote from: BigAdz on July 25, 2017, 07:45:02 AM
Im not seeing much on here about the Corbyn apparent U turn on tuition fees.

What did he actually say?

During the election the shadow educatiin secretary, Angela Raymer said labour wanted to cancel all student debt.  She qualified this by saying they would do this when they could afford it.  I heard an interview with her on 5 live a few days before the election.  From what I remember, she was talking as if 100 billion was small change.  You can also find her talking about it elsewhere from the time if you google it.

Jeremy Corbyn also talked about this "ambition" too.

From what I remember, some other senior labour figure (s) were distancing themselves from it pretty much imediately in other interviews.

I don't think it was in the manifesto, just one of a series of things that people on both sides said in the election.

So it may not be a u turn, but the story isn't entirely false either.  Yeah it wasn't in the manifesto, but she was the shadow minister.
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