The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[TightEnd]

the economist

Car crashes happen in the blink of an eye. Brexit could have a slow-motion impact that will be no less harmful

https://www.economist.com/news/britain/21725584-bmw-announces-welcome-investment-road-ahead-looks-bumpy-britains-car-industry-gets?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/britainscarindustrygetsaminiboostbutfacesmajorproblems

[TightEnd]

Border chaos will hit hard after Brexit, says report

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/29/uk-border-customs-chaos-hit-hard-brexit?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[TightEnd]

surprisingly hard.

Can you name the shadowy politicians? - BBC News

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40742706

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Exclusive: Philip Hammond allies accuse Liam Fox of 'living in fantasy-land' amid mounting Brexit tensions

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/30/exclusive-philip-hammond-allies-accuse-liam-fox-living-fantasy/?WT.mc_id=tmgliveapp_androidshare_AmVYVhghCXpn

[MintTrav]

Donald J. Trump
 ✔  ‎@realDonaldTrump 

Highest Stock Market EVER, best economic numbers in years, unemployment lowest in 17 years, wages raising, border secure, S.C.: No WH chaos!


Trump tries to change the narrative and mislead by quoting results that are nothing to do with him, mostly being extensions of how things were going anyway, for all the world like a Brexiteer picking out selected misleading stats to try to give an impression that the UK economy is going well.

I was going to post this on the US thread, but it just reminded me so much of the recent attempt to mislead by quoting the inflation rate on this thread that I had to put it here for comparison.

[TightEnd]

How voters learned to like JC and dislike TMay. From BBC commissioned academic study of what happened at GE2017.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40630242

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[TightEnd]

hard hitting stuff in the NYT

"No Dunkirk Spirit Can Save Britain From Brexit Defeat"

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/28/opinion/dunkirk-christopher-nolan-brexit.html

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Oh

Whoever the Chancellor is, there is no Commons majority for low tax, low regulation Brexit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/07/real-reason-tories-cant-turn-uk-post-brexit-tax-haven

[TightEnd]

From the BES team's writeup, the word cloud provides a clue as to the main issue in 17GE

http://www.britishelectionstudy.com/bes-impact/the-brexit-election-the-2017-general-election-in-ten-charts/#.WYAyWpF4WhA

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Jeremy Corbyn’s Euroscepticism won’t put his supporters off

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/07/no-jeremy-corbyn-s-euroscepticism-won-t-put-his-supporters

[TightEnd]

Brexit 'extremists' - many Brits believe the economy tanking to be a price worth paying to get their way on Brexit

61% of Leave voters say significant economic damage would be a price worth paying for bringing Britain out of the EU (admission,i don't understand this,it perplexes me)

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/08/01/britain-nation-brexit-extremists/

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39% of Leave voters also say themselves/family members losing their jobs a price worth paying for Brexit

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Age a key factor: older Leave voters more likely to say economic damage/job losses a price worth paying for Brexit

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Not restricted to Leave voters though - 34% of Remain voters say economic harm a price worth paying to avert Brexit

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Plus 18% of Remain voters say themselves/members of family losing their jobs a price worth paying to avert Brexit

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and (lol) Finally, 1 in 5 Remain voters would like to see Brexit cause economic damage just to teach Leave voters a lesson

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[TightEnd]

British election survey released first tranche results: these two charts of Leave & Remain voter flows explain much (i think):

Cons incorporate bulk of UKIP 2015 voters... Get 60% of Leave vote.. But Lab increases share too

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Cons lose 20% ish of their remain voters elsewhere. even LD lose some remain vote to Lab

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[POWWWWWWWW]

From the BES team's writeup, the word cloud provides a clue as to the main issue in 17GE

http://www.britishelectionstudy.com/bes-impact/the-brexit-election-the-2017-general-election-in-ten-charts/#.WYAyWpF4WhA

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How do any of these come up more than once?

[Skippy]

61% of Leave voters say significant economic damage would be a price worth paying for bringing Britain out of the EU (admission,i don't understand this,it perplexes me)

I think that a) a lot of people feel that the economy is some abstract far away thing that doesn't affect them, and b) a lot of people in Britain think that the economy is run for the benefit of other people (rich people, Londoners), don't care if things get worse for those groups and don't think that things can get any worse for them personally. I think they're wrong about both these things.

[TightEnd]

following on from that

Yougov found 800 leavers (39% of 2k) who say losing their or family member's job worth it for Brexit: bulk over 65s (50% over 65 Leave voters think a lost family members job = price worth paying for Brexit )

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this is utterly incredible isn't it? (and shows how firm the "leave" vote is)