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« Reply #11235 on: October 13, 2017, 10:43:06 AM » |
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Country is currently drifting up a creak without a paddle imo.
Needs to be crossparty work on Brexit and fast.
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« Reply #11236 on: October 13, 2017, 11:39:49 AM » |
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« Reply #11237 on: October 13, 2017, 04:39:39 PM » |
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Country is currently drifting up a creak without a paddle imo.
Needs to be crossparty work on Brexit and fast.
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Congratulations to the 2012 League Champion - Stapleton Atheists
"Keith The Camel, a true champion!" - Brent Horner 30th December 2012
"I dont think you're a wanker Keith" David Nicholson 4th March 2013
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« Reply #11238 on: October 13, 2017, 04:57:21 PM » |
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Fresh figures from @YouGov suggest almost two-thirds of the public now think the Brexit negotiations are going badly. | Click to see full-size image. |
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« Reply #11239 on: October 13, 2017, 04:58:20 PM » |
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« Reply #11240 on: October 13, 2017, 08:32:39 PM » |
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Country is currently drifting up a creak without a paddle imo.
Needs to be crossparty work on Brexit and fast.
Why would Labour ruin their electoral chances by getting involved in Brexit? I initially wrote ignore the next election. But they won't do that. |
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« Reply #11241 on: October 14, 2017, 09:11:49 AM » |
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64% think Brexit negotiations are going badly
67% don't think Theresa May is best PM
Labour are ahead in the polls by 2-3%
People saying we were Wrong to vote to Leave is up by 5%
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But yeah, push on with No Deal and hard Brexit 😂
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« Reply #11243 on: October 14, 2017, 09:15:06 AM » |
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« Reply #11245 on: October 14, 2017, 09:17:17 AM » |
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« Reply #11246 on: October 14, 2017, 11:01:49 AM » |
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One thing that isn't getting much attention is the position the EU have to be seen to take.
Politically they need to look very tough with the UK. Negotiations cant be seen to be going too well - they don't want any momentum to gather in any other member country that could de-rail the EU project.
It seems logical they will do a deal - but will make the UK sweat and play hard ball right up until the wire.
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« Reply #11247 on: October 14, 2017, 11:20:47 AM » |
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« Reply #11248 on: October 14, 2017, 01:14:32 PM » |
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One thing that isn't getting much attention is the position the EU have to be seen to take.
Politically they need to look very tough with the UK. Negotiations cant be seen to be going too well - they don't want any momentum to gather in any other member country that could de-rail the EU project.
It seems logical they will do a deal - but will make the UK sweat and play hard ball right up until the wire.
I think you are missing one major consideration. A leaving agreement only needs a majority of the 27 to agree, but a trade deal has to be unanimous. For this reason the UK's attempt to coalesce the two can never work. |
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« Reply #11249 on: October 14, 2017, 07:48:11 PM » |
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One thing that isn't getting much attention is the position the EU have to be seen to take.
Politically they need to look very tough with the UK. Negotiations cant be seen to be going too well - they don't want any momentum to gather in any other member country that could de-rail the EU project.
It seems logical they will do a deal - but will make the UK sweat and play hard ball right up until the wire.
I think you are missing one major consideration. A leaving agreement only needs a majority of the 27 to agree, but a trade deal has to be unanimous. For this reason the UK's attempt to coalesce the two can never work. I guess the real power in the EU will flex its muscle. Merkel will want some sort of trade deal and will lean on the weaker members. She is pragmatic enough to know its in her own countries trading interest to do a deal. |
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