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« Reply #210 on: September 08, 2015, 11:36:56 PM »

I think we should call everyone's bluff.  Whatever government decides to house but then add a family for Sturgeon and Cooper and four families for Geldoff and allocate them for the 2/3 years it takes to sort the citizen application.  Everyone wins.
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« Reply #211 on: September 08, 2015, 11:41:58 PM »

I think we should call everyone's bluff.  Whatever government decides to house but then add a family for Sturgeon and Cooper and four families for Geldoff and allocate them for the 2/3 years it takes to sort the citizen application.  Everyone wins.

Dont incourage the tories, theyll be saying theyve found a solution to the bedroom tax.
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« Reply #212 on: September 08, 2015, 11:47:03 PM »

Was amused by poland and czechs saying they dont want immigrants, yeah well your own people dont want to live there so why the hell would these people.

lived in near Teeside and live in Prague. I know where I'd rather live...
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« Reply #213 on: September 08, 2015, 11:57:26 PM »

Teeside is looking to lead the way on taking refugees. Haha these poor buggers think theyve seen a bombsite.

People continue to say that people coming on boats are fleeing a warzone which isnt technically true. They are fleeing refugee camps to try to get to a country to make a better life. I dont blame them and would still gladly accept them but have the concern that the financially better off are escaping what are probably pretty grim conditions in these camps in turkey/lebanon etc, while the probably more needy are simply stuck. The family who have caused a lot of the change in public opinion were living in turkey two years before their death.

Also sickened by camerons decision to release months old news about a syrian air strike, which was contrary to a commons vote, straight after the events of the weekend, to avoid criticism. Stinks of labour slimy tactics on releasing bad news on the back of worse news.

Was amused by poland and czechs saying they dont want immigrants, yeah well your own people dont want to live there so why the hell would these people.

Been to Teesside lately?

And even if your stereotypical comment had some truth in it, at least the incoming refugees will get a decent welcome.
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« Reply #214 on: September 09, 2015, 12:16:00 AM »

Teeside is looking to lead the way on taking refugees. Haha these poor buggers think theyve seen a bombsite.

People continue to say that people coming on boats are fleeing a warzone which isnt technically true. They are fleeing refugee camps to try to get to a country to make a better life. I dont blame them and would still gladly accept them but have the concern that the financially better off are escaping what are probably pretty grim conditions in these camps in turkey/lebanon etc, while the probably more needy are simply stuck. The family who have caused a lot of the change in public opinion were living in turkey two years before their death.

Also sickened by camerons decision to release months old news about a syrian air strike, which was contrary to a commons vote, straight after the events of the weekend, to avoid criticism. Stinks of labour slimy tactics on releasing bad news on the back of worse news.

Was amused by poland and czechs saying they dont want immigrants, yeah well your own people dont want to live there so why the hell would these people.

Been to Teesside lately?

And even if your stereotypical comment had some truth in it, at least the incoming refugees will get a decent welcome.

No stereotyping would have been to say only children are welcome.

Yes, daily, it was a joke. The comment, not the place. Id invite them to tyneside as we have plenty of coats not being used or they can have the spare housing in sunderland if we they can remember where they left their keys
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« Reply #215 on: September 09, 2015, 12:25:15 AM »

The impression has been given that the government is funding the cost of Britain's contribution to resolving the refugee situation, whereas it is actually allocating zero additional funding. The money it will give to Councils will be diverted from within the existing Overseas Aid budget, so the cost will be borne by Bangladesh, Ethiopia and other African and Asian countries as we cut back on allocations for drinking water programmes, education, fighting malaria and so on, so we can deal with the refugee crisis.

Should the government not be paying for the refugee costs from additional funding rather than by diverting existing spending from the programmes where it is badly needed?
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« Reply #216 on: September 09, 2015, 01:31:33 AM »

The impression has been given that the government is funding the cost of Britain's contribution to resolving the refugee situation, whereas it is actually allocating zero additional funding. The money it will give to Councils will be diverted from within the existing Overseas Aid budget, so the cost will be borne by Bangladesh, Ethiopia and other African and Asian countries as we cut back on allocations for drinking water programmes, education, fighting malaria and so on, so we can deal with the refugee crisis.

Should the government not be paying for the refugee costs from additional funding rather than by diverting existing spending from the programmes where it is badly needed?

and so something really positive about our country is really a negative?

http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2015/mar/09/uk-passes-bill-law-aid-target-percentage-income

The 0.7% commitment was established by the UN in 1970. In 2013, only five other countries – Sweden, Norway, Luxembourg, Denmark and the United Arab Emirates – had met or exceeded the 0.7% aid spending target. The Netherlands had consistently met the target, but fell short in 2013.

I think they should probably spend it where it is most needed and at least if it goes to the refugee crisis then we know that we aren't using it as a makeweight in an arms deal; to support an unpopular leader; to ingratiate ourselves with China/India etc.
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« Reply #217 on: September 09, 2015, 02:25:19 AM »

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« Reply #218 on: September 09, 2015, 07:23:55 AM »

Teeside is looking to lead the way on taking refugees. Haha these poor buggers think theyve seen a bombsite.

People continue to say that people coming on boats are fleeing a warzone which isnt technically true. They are fleeing refugee camps to try to get to a country to make a better life. I dont blame them and would still gladly accept them but have the concern that the financially better off are escaping what are probably pretty grim conditions in these camps in turkey/lebanon etc, while the probably more needy are simply stuck. The family who have caused a lot of the change in public opinion were living in turkey two years before their death.

Also sickened by camerons decision to release months old news about a syrian air strike, which was contrary to a commons vote, straight after the events of the weekend, to avoid criticism. Stinks of labour slimy tactics on releasing bad news on the back of worse news.

Was amused by poland and czechs saying they dont want immigrants, yeah well your own people dont want to live there so why the hell would these people.

Been to Teesside lately?

And even if your stereotypical comment had some truth in it, at least the incoming refugees will get a decent welcome.

No stereotyping would have been to say only children are welcome.

Yes, daily, it was a joke. The comment, not the place. Id invite them to tyneside as we have plenty of coats not being used or they can have the spare housing in sunderland if we they can remember where they left their keys

Ahh, didn't realise you were a Broon Ale man. Fair enough.
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« Reply #219 on: September 11, 2015, 02:33:13 PM »

Why do they throw away the food/water/aid they are given?
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« Reply #220 on: September 11, 2015, 02:43:27 PM »

Why do they throw away the food/water/aid they are given?

All of them?  this is Hungary, right?
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« Reply #221 on: September 11, 2015, 03:33:49 PM »

Why do they throw away the food/water/aid they are given?

All of them?  this is Hungary, right?

I managed to find some videos from Hungary(wish this was one of the trivia questions) alongside the ones of the refugees getting thrown food in cattle pens.

As it was by a train, I assume the people who are now offering food are the same ones declining them transport to Germany or other country or transporting them to the refugee camps instead.  I assume they have a grudge for this or some previous unseen mistreatment.

It really isn't normal refugee behaviour.  Even the cattle pen refugees seemed glad of the food, so somebody must have done something to really piss the others off.

You just have to assume context is everything and without that we really have no idea why it is happening. 
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« Reply #222 on: September 11, 2015, 06:27:43 PM »

am a little puzzled... why would you go back to the place you were running from for your life..is it safe there now ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3222135/Syrian-boys-Aylan-Galip-Kurdi-s-father-returns-Kobane-bury-sons-wife.html
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« Reply #223 on: September 11, 2015, 07:25:58 PM »

am a little puzzled... why would you go back to the place you were running from for your life..is it safe there now ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3222135/Syrian-boys-Aylan-Galip-Kurdi-s-father-returns-Kobane-bury-sons-wife.html

I can totally understand it. He has lost everything. If your wife and both your young children have been killed, you're going to feel that there is no point in carrying on. His dream was for his family. What is the point in trying to fulfill it now? He probably doesn't care any more whether he gets killed.
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« Reply #224 on: September 11, 2015, 07:43:48 PM »

Why do they throw away the food/water/aid they are given?

They werent hungary
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