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Topic: Soon, it won't even make the news. (Read 43004 times)
tikay
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Re: Soon, it won't even make the news.
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You'd think the US of A politicians & Civil Rights leaders would want to see better gun controls, too - it just occurred to me how many of them have been shot in my lifetime. I'm sure there are more than this, but without even googling, these names come to mind....
John F Kennedy
Governor Connally
George Wallace
Bobby Kennedy
Martin Luther King
Ronald Reagan
Seem to recall another - a Lady politician who was shot in the neck & paralysed, too.
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You missed a couple of sitters there boss
Abe Lincoln
Teddy Rosevelt I believe was shot during a speech but he brushed himself off made a joke and finished it
Wasn't Bush Snr also shot?
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Quote from: DaveShoelace on October 03, 2015, 10:22:58 AM
You missed a couple of sitters there boss
Abe Lincoln
Teddy Rosevelt I believe was shot during a speech but he brushed himself off made a joke and finished it
Wasn't Bush Snr also shot?
What are you suggesting, Barry?
many of them have been shot
in my lifetime
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Oops
Actually even if I'd read your post properly I would have made the joke
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Mass shootings in the US since 2012. ("mass" = 4 or more people shot).
986 of them.
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a very poor system for diagnosing mental health problems and treating them is part of the issue too
the pro gun lobby is everywhere
yesterday on twitter
Gov. Mike Huckabee @GovMikeHuckabee
Obama can shamelessly try and exploit any tragedy he wants, but it's clear that gun free zones are sitting duck zones.
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Re: Soon, it won't even make the news.
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Quote from: TightEnd on October 03, 2015, 12:48:49 PM
a very poor system for diagnosing mental health problems and treating them is part of the issue too
the pro gun lobby is everywhere
yesterday on twitter
Gov. Mike Huckabee @GovMikeHuckabee
Obama can shamelessly try and exploit any tragedy he wants, but it's clear that gun free zones are sitting duck zones.
Begging your pardon Mr Huckabee, but sitting ducks for what?
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Quote from: The Camel on October 03, 2015, 09:39:10 AM
Quote from: DungBeetle on October 03, 2015, 02:04:26 AM
Quote from: bagel on October 02, 2015, 08:50:55 PM
anybody who thinks it would not happen here if we had the same access to guns is completely deluded.
Quite. Easier to talk of thick Americans I suppose.
After Port Arthur and Dunblane the people of Australia and UK accepted stricter gun control.
It seems like whatever the atrocity, Americans never will.
That is the difference. If we had the same gun laws as the USA I'm sure you're right.
Yes that's true. I guess the stupidity is the refusal to change.
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Re: Soon, it won't even make the news.
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Quote from: RED-DOG on October 03, 2015, 01:43:06 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on October 03, 2015, 12:48:49 PM
a very poor system for diagnosing mental health problems and treating them is part of the issue too
the pro gun lobby is everywhere
yesterday on twitter
Gov. Mike Huckabee @GovMikeHuckabee
Obama can shamelessly try and exploit any tragedy he wants, but it's clear that gun free zones are sitting duck zones.
Begging your pardon Mr Huckabee, but sitting ducks for what?
for people with illegal guns
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Re: Soon, it won't even make the news.
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October 03, 2015, 08:45:50 PM »
People comparing the UK and the U.S. on gun law is pretty silly.
The fact is Americans have guns, a lot of them, if they somehow banned guns overnight the bad guys aren't just going to hand them in, in short it won't work. Things will have to change very gradually through stricter controls. This will happen but guns will be legal in the U.S. until long after I die.
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Re: Soon, it won't even make the news.
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Quote from: DungBeetle on October 03, 2015, 03:11:15 PM
Quote from: The Camel on October 03, 2015, 09:39:10 AM
Quote from: DungBeetle on October 03, 2015, 02:04:26 AM
Quote from: bagel on October 02, 2015, 08:50:55 PM
anybody who thinks it would not happen here if we had the same access to guns is completely deluded.
Quite. Easier to talk of thick Americans I suppose.
After Port Arthur and Dunblane the people of Australia and UK accepted stricter gun control.
It seems like whatever the atrocity, Americans never will.
That is the difference. If we had the same gun laws as the USA I'm sure you're right.
Yes that's true. I guess the stupidity is the refusal to change.
That's all I was ever trying to say.
If there was the exact same amount of guns per capita in the UK I think there would be less gun crime than in the USA, but there would be alot obviously.
The refusal of the gun lobby to even countenance proposals that might reduce these tragedies is why I think they are stupid.
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Re: Soon, it won't even make the news.
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October 03, 2015, 10:32:39 PM »
Quote from: The Camel on October 03, 2015, 10:12:42 PM
Quote from: DungBeetle on October 03, 2015, 03:11:15 PM
Quote from: The Camel on October 03, 2015, 09:39:10 AM
Quote from: DungBeetle on October 03, 2015, 02:04:26 AM
Quote from: bagel on October 02, 2015, 08:50:55 PM
anybody who thinks it would not happen here if we had the same access to guns is completely deluded.
Quite. Easier to talk of thick Americans I suppose.
After Port Arthur and Dunblane the people of Australia and UK accepted stricter gun control.
It seems like whatever the atrocity, Americans never will.
That is the difference. If we had the same gun laws as the USA I'm sure you're right.
Yes that's true. I guess the stupidity is the refusal to change.
That's all I was ever trying to say.
If there was the exact same amount of guns per capita in the UK I think there would be less gun crime than in the USA, but there would be alot obviously.
The refusal of the gun lobby to even countenance proposals that might reduce these tragedies is why I think they are stupid.
I think it goes beyond stupid, it's evil sociopathic corporate greed. Gun sales go up whenever there is a mass shooting, I actually think they like it when these things happen rather than see it as bad PR.
Most of the (many) problems they have in America are the result of how easy it is to buy politicians.
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October 04, 2015, 10:24:42 AM »
Shame I have to big up Piers Morgan, but give him his due, spot on here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0347qlf
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Staggering figures.
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Re: Soon, it won't even make the news.
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October 06, 2015, 09:47:03 AM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34450841
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