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« Reply #240 on: June 13, 2016, 01:52:11 PM »

this is an excellent read

http://www.espnfc.com/european-championship/74/blog/post/2891011/euro-2016-fan-clashes-at-england-vs-russia-match-troublinng-sign


there are some genuinely worrying quotes coming out of Russia today

Vladislav Zhukov (Russian MP) - "If England fans don't want to get beaten up they shouldn't go to football matches. They are babies."

"Black fans and gays cannot be guaranteed safety at the 2018 Russia World Cup but that is their problem not ours".

Igor Lebedev, Russian FA executive: "90% of the fans go to football to fight, and that is normal. Our guys stood for our country"
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« Reply #241 on: June 13, 2016, 02:03:44 PM »

this is an excellent read

http://www.espnfc.com/european-championship/74/blog/post/2891011/euro-2016-fan-clashes-at-england-vs-russia-match-troublinng-sign


there are some genuinely worrying quotes coming out of Russia today

Vladislav Zhukov (Russian MP) - "If England fans don't want to get beaten up they shouldn't go to football matches. They are babies."

"Black fans and gays cannot be guaranteed safety at the 2018 Russia World Cup but that is their problem not ours".

Igor Lebedev, Russian FA executive: "90% of the fans go to football to fight, and that is normal. Our guys stood for our country"

Wow! Those quotes and incredibly damning. If I was in charge I would give serious consideration to taking the World Cup off them.
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« Reply #242 on: June 13, 2016, 02:06:34 PM »

But Russian MP Igor Lebedev criticised French police and called on Russian football fans to

"keep up the good work"

"I see nothing wrong with football fans fighting. On the contrary, well done to our boys! Keep up the good work!" he tweeted.
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« Reply #243 on: June 13, 2016, 04:47:52 PM »

Russia is gonna be absolute carnage in 2 years. Couldn't pay me enough to go there for the WC. I'll stick to watching jobbing keepers on the box.
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« Reply #244 on: June 13, 2016, 04:50:56 PM »

Russia is gonna be absolute carnage in 2 years. Couldn't pay me enough to go there for the WC. I'll stick to watching jobbing keepers on the box.

Fancy an even money bet Hart starts the first game of 2018 WC for England?  You have the best of it by a mile but i will accommodate you for small stakes for a bit of interest.
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« Reply #245 on: June 13, 2016, 04:56:59 PM »

Russia is gonna be absolute carnage in 2 years. Couldn't pay me enough to go there for the WC. I'll stick to watching jobbing keepers on the box.

Fancy an even money bet Hart starts the first game of 2018 WC for England?  You have the best of it by a mile but i will accommodate you for small stakes for a bit of interest.

I actually had a bet with myself that you'd offer some Hart related gamble before midnight Wink

I'm flattered, honestly I am, but your small stakes is probably the equivalent of my weekly wage! I'm happy to debate whatever aspect of the Euros whilst keeping the elastic bands on my wallet.
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« Reply #246 on: June 13, 2016, 05:00:21 PM »

Russia is gonna be absolute carnage in 2 years. Couldn't pay me enough to go there for the WC. I'll stick to watching jobbing keepers on the box.

Fancy an even money bet Hart starts the first game of 2018 WC for England?  You have the best of it by a mile but i will accommodate you for small stakes for a bit of interest.

I actually had a bet with myself that you'd offer some Hart related gamble before midnight Wink

I'm flattered, honestly I am, but your small stakes is probably the equivalent of my weekly wage! I'm happy to debate whatever aspect of the Euros whilst keeping the elastic bands on my wallet.

How many previous days have you had the same mythical bet though and lost because i only mentioned it today!   Wink

How would other people (outside of the debate) price Hart to start the first game of the 2018 WC?  If England don't qualify the bet loses.  Evens is too big right?
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« Reply #247 on: June 13, 2016, 05:12:51 PM »

Russia is gonna be absolute carnage in 2 years. Couldn't pay me enough to go there for the WC. I'll stick to watching jobbing keepers on the box.

Fancy an even money bet Hart starts the first game of 2018 WC for England?  You have the best of it by a mile but i will accommodate you for small stakes for a bit of interest.

I actually had a bet with myself that you'd offer some Hart related gamble before midnight Wink

I'm flattered, honestly I am, but your small stakes is probably the equivalent of my weekly wage! I'm happy to debate whatever aspect of the Euros whilst keeping the elastic bands on my wallet.

How many previous days have you had the same mythical bet though and lost because i only mentioned it today!   Wink

How would other people (outside of the debate) price Hart to start the first game of the 2018 WC?  If England don't qualify the bet loses.  Evens is too big right?

I'll level with you Arbboy, I've had that mythical bet with myself every day. I actually feel like I've made it on Blonde now Smiley

Yeah I'd say evens is pretty big. It's 2 years down the line so not exactly easy to price 'correctly' and there are many variables that could happen, but at 29 he is in his prime so you'd have to assume heavy odds on.
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« Reply #248 on: June 13, 2016, 05:16:46 PM »

Russia is gonna be absolute carnage in 2 years. Couldn't pay me enough to go there for the WC. I'll stick to watching jobbing keepers on the box.

Fancy an even money bet Hart starts the first game of 2018 WC for England?  You have the best of it by a mile but i will accommodate you for small stakes for a bit of interest.

I actually had a bet with myself that you'd offer some Hart related gamble before midnight Wink

I'm flattered, honestly I am, but your small stakes is probably the equivalent of my weekly wage! I'm happy to debate whatever aspect of the Euros whilst keeping the elastic bands on my wallet.

How many previous days have you had the same mythical bet though and lost because i only mentioned it today!   Wink

How would other people (outside of the debate) price Hart to start the first game of the 2018 WC?  If England don't qualify the bet loses.  Evens is too big right?

Think it relies on a few factors:

1) Pep keeping him as number 1 at Man City (having home grown senior keeper must be a plus though and let's face it he's adequate for a top 4 premier team?  Pep got bigger issues to address).
2) Whether Roy stays in charge of England (as reckon that would make it a lock).
3) England qualifying plus potential injuries

All in all, I'd probably think evens is a good bet for him to start WC2018?
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« Reply #249 on: June 13, 2016, 06:17:22 PM »

I would say Evens is a little big but not far away
He will be 31 so age not an issue
Manager could change and not fancy him, if he left City for say Everton would it effect his place much?
Not anyone outstanding coming through
Still think he is a good keeper myself ,does things nice and simple pretty solid
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« Reply #250 on: June 13, 2016, 06:28:56 PM »

this is an excellent read

http://www.espnfc.com/european-championship/74/blog/post/2891011/euro-2016-fan-clashes-at-england-vs-russia-match-troublinng-sign


there are some genuinely worrying quotes coming out of Russia today

Vladislav Zhukov (Russian MP) - "If England fans don't want to get beaten up they shouldn't go to football matches. They are babies."

"Black fans and gays cannot be guaranteed safety at the 2018 Russia World Cup but that is their problem not ours".

Igor Lebedev, Russian FA executive: "90% of the fans go to football to fight, and that is normal. Our guys stood for our country"

Bloody Hell.

Is this genuine?

If so, the ruling bodies need to take the World Cup elsewhere.
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« Reply #251 on: June 13, 2016, 06:48:20 PM »

this is an excellent read

http://www.espnfc.com/european-championship/74/blog/post/2891011/euro-2016-fan-clashes-at-england-vs-russia-match-troublinng-sign


there are some genuinely worrying quotes coming out of Russia today

Vladislav Zhukov (Russian MP) - "If England fans don't want to get beaten up they shouldn't go to football matches. They are babies."

"Black fans and gays cannot be guaranteed safety at the 2018 Russia World Cup but that is their problem not ours".

Igor Lebedev, Russian FA executive: "90% of the fans go to football to fight, and that is normal. Our guys stood for our country"

Bloody Hell.

Is this genuine?

If so, the ruling bodies need to take the World Cup elsewhere.

And then Qatar in 2022.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-36516006
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« Reply #252 on: June 13, 2016, 06:55:08 PM »

Rooney's message to the fans today was heartfelt, genuine and natural. Well done Wayne.
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« Reply #253 on: June 13, 2016, 09:15:24 PM »

What on earth has the bog brush done to his hair?!

Italy team is so old I'm just waiting for them to limp min re-raise AA.
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« Reply #254 on: June 13, 2016, 11:26:45 PM »

Belgium are so restricted by their nomark manager. 

12.50% win rate at Schalke
22.73% win rate at Sint Truiden (sacked)
That's it.

This man is entrusted with the Belgian golden generation.   They need to sack this clown so they at least have a chance to make an impact at Russia 2018 or it will be the usual mediocrity interspersed with some individual class.  He takes 10-15% off their potential imo.

Reckon you could pop a forumite who spoke French in charge and it would be equal EV in terms of results.
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