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« Reply #105 on: October 29, 2015, 11:52:02 PM »

Some bosses and firms deserve to be lied to like they are every day without realising it if they couldn't happily give someone a day off in this situation.

This is getting silly.

What do you expect from Arbboy?

Realism in the real world and a two way mutually beneficial arrangement where looking after employees in times like this will lock in their loyalty long term and save smart companies big staff turnover.  

Employment is a two way street. If you are not flexible as a firm you lose your best guys,  you will always retain the losers because no one else wants them similar to nirvana said previously,  sure his posts were a level but I actually agree with them.

Suppose it all comes back to how good you are at your job and whether you know your relative power. Most people here sound like they are workers in communist Russia.

The reality is people will and do lie to their yes men bosses on a daily and weekly basis whilst striving to be the same yes man boss further down the line themselves.  It would be much better to not have to do it but that's the way the world works if you buy into it.
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« Reply #106 on: October 30, 2015, 12:07:37 AM »


You are utterly clueless Arb.  The valuable employees you talk about are valuable exactly because they don't make stupid life decisions like entering a poker tournament that they can't final without causing people problems.
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« Reply #107 on: October 30, 2015, 12:27:41 AM »


You are utterly clueless Arb.  The valuable employees you talk about are valuable exactly because they don't make stupid life decisions like entering a poker tournament that they can't final without causing people problems.


great point
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« Reply #108 on: October 30, 2015, 12:39:41 AM »


You are utterly clueless Arb.  The valuable employees you talk about are valuable exactly because they don't make stupid life decisions like entering a poker tournament that they can't final without causing people problems.

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What is stupid about having a weekend hobby which 99% of the time doesn't remotely interfere with your day job, when it does you are winning a life changing amount of money just by asking your boss for a favour once in your 40 year career?
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« Reply #109 on: October 30, 2015, 12:39:58 AM »


You are utterly clueless Arb.  The valuable employees you talk about are valuable exactly because they don't make stupid life decisions like entering a poker tournament that they can't final without causing people problems.


great point
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« Reply #110 on: October 30, 2015, 12:45:03 AM »

How many problems are really caused? For one day? What if you are sick the same incredibly tough problems occur. How do businesses cope when people are sick? Or their kids have to go to the dentist? People here are talking like the world collapses if one person in a huge organisation can't make it to work on a Monday. How important are all of your jobs? You All sound like £200k a week stockbrokers who can't possibly be replaced for a day
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« Reply #111 on: October 30, 2015, 12:53:01 AM »


You are utterly clueless Arb.  The valuable employees you talk about are valuable exactly because they don't make stupid life decisions like entering a poker tournament that they can't final without causing people problems.

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What is stupid about having a weekend hobby which 99% of the time doesn't remotely interfere with your day job, when it does you are winning a life changing amount of money just by asking your boss for a favour once in your 40 year career?

Are you working on an assumption, Argue?

If a manager/Boss gives someone a "day off" then all they are saying to the employee, is that you can walk all over them again. The likelyhood is that the employee might think he/she could get away with it again.

Also, I am not sure for others, but telling people I am a gambler/poker player is simply something I would tell to an employer anyway.
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« Reply #112 on: October 30, 2015, 12:59:21 AM »


You are utterly clueless Arb.  The valuable employees you talk about are valuable exactly because they don't make stupid life decisions like entering a poker tournament that they can't final without causing people problems.

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What is stupid about having a weekend hobby which 99% of the time doesn't remotely interfere with your day job, when it does you are winning a life changing amount of money just by asking your boss for a favour once in your 40 year career?

Are you working on an assumption, Argue?

If a manager/Boss gives someone a "day off" then all they are saying to the employee, is that you can walk all over them again. The likelyhood is that the employee might think he/she could get away with it again.

Also, I am not sure for others, but telling people I am a gambler/poker player is simply something I would tell to an employer anyway.

Think you have missed out a not there.  I know you are a degen but even you wouldn't be queuing up to brag about your degen tendencies to your boss, I gather that.
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« Reply #113 on: October 30, 2015, 01:01:47 AM »

I am always working on the assumption that this would happen once in your working life as I have said from that start.  A one off surely isn't that bad?
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« Reply #114 on: October 30, 2015, 01:10:01 AM »

I am always working on the assumption that this would happen once in your working life as I have said from that start.  A one off surely isn't that bad?

You are working on assumption, so you are already incorrect.
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« Reply #115 on: October 30, 2015, 01:14:15 AM »

I am always working on the assumption that this would happen once in your working life as I have said from that start.  A one off surely isn't that bad?

I'm working on the fact that it was a regular thing (well semi reg) due to the initial question assuming most comps finish on the Monday.

I actually had this situation when I won the Notts Gala tour. I had finished in Notts very late, couldn't sleep and had work next day. I asked to finish early due to the lack of sleep and immediately regretted it once I saw my bosses face.

Again I don't think it's the actual impact of the day off- it's the long lasting impression it leaves.

Say I needed a weekday off due to the kids or any other reason I got the impression my workplace always used to think it was linked to poker and my lifestyle outside of work. Perception is a HUGE factor at work esp if you're looking to progress.
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« Reply #116 on: October 30, 2015, 01:24:58 AM »

I am always working on the assumption that this would happen once in your working life as I have said from that start.  A one off surely isn't that bad?

I'm working on the fact that it was a regular thing (well semi reg) due to the initial question assuming most comps finish on the Monday.

I actually had this situation when I won the Notts Gala tour. I had finished in Notts very late, couldn't sleep and had work next day. I asked to finish early due to the lack of sleep and immediately regretted it once I saw my bosses face.

Again I don't think it's the actual impact of the day off- it's the long lasting impression it leaves.

Say I needed a weekday off due to the kids or any other reason I got the impression my workplace always used to think it was linked to poker and my lifestyle outside of work. Perception is a HUGE factor at work esp if you're looking to progress.
. But you are being results oriented like your boss.  You know you are a 100/1 to make the final table in these events.  Whatever happens in real life is just chance. You might never make a final table for this to even be an issue.
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« Reply #117 on: October 30, 2015, 01:31:19 AM »

I'm not being results orientated. I just cannot take the chance no matter how remote the chance is. Which is fine- I just won't play the event. I'm sure the tour operators can live without me
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« Reply #118 on: October 30, 2015, 01:42:54 AM »

I am always working on the assumption that this would happen once in your working life as I have said from that start.  A one off surely isn't that bad?

You are working on assumption, so you are already incorrect.

Oh arron!!!! You are Mr results orientated you can be this week with a 7/1 winner,  I was working on expected value not assumption.  Results ftw though!!!! Grin
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« Reply #119 on: October 30, 2015, 01:50:51 AM »

I am always working on the assumption that this would happen once in your working life as I have said from that start.  A one off surely isn't that bad?

You are working on assumption, so you are already incorrect.

Oh arron!!!! You are Mr results orientated you can be this week with a 7/1 winner,

I suppose being a 7/1 winner is much better than giving rep to someone who is about to grim grim grim!
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