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Topic: Happy Mondays (Read 39117 times)
david3103
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Re: Happy Mondays
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Reply #180 on:
November 03, 2015, 05:33:44 PM »
Quote from: bobAlike on November 03, 2015, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: The Camel on November 03, 2015, 01:43:21 PM
I would much rather DTD lower their guarantees than allowed re entries again.
I massively applauded Rob's decision to stop re entries, I think that was a tremendous move for the good of poker.
2 sentences that I totally agree with.
Yep.
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Re: Happy Mondays
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Reply #181 on:
November 03, 2015, 05:41:38 PM »
Quote from: david3103 on November 03, 2015, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on November 03, 2015, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: The Camel on November 03, 2015, 01:43:21 PM
I would much rather DTD lower their guarantees than allowed re entries again.
I massively applauded Rob's decision to stop re entries, I think that was a tremendous move for the good of poker.
2 sentences that I totally agree with.
Yep.
A yep that I totally agree with.
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Re: Happy Mondays
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Reply #182 on:
November 03, 2015, 06:09:38 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 03, 2015, 05:41:38 PM
Quote from: david3103 on November 03, 2015, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on November 03, 2015, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: The Camel on November 03, 2015, 01:43:21 PM
I would much rather DTD lower their guarantees than allowed re entries again.
I massively applauded Rob's decision to stop re entries, I think that was a tremendous move for the good of poker.
2 sentences that I totally agree with.
Yep.
A yep that I totally agree with.
Right, but did any of you enter the tournament?
This forum and the Facebook community group was just about in favour of scrapping re-entry. Yet clearly those people didn't play anyway.
So can see why Rob is tearing his hair out.
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arbboy
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Re: Happy Mondays
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Reply #183 on:
November 03, 2015, 06:14:55 PM »
Quote from: cambridgealex on November 03, 2015, 06:09:38 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 03, 2015, 05:41:38 PM
Quote from: david3103 on November 03, 2015, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on November 03, 2015, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: The Camel on November 03, 2015, 01:43:21 PM
I would much rather DTD lower their guarantees than allowed re entries again.
I massively applauded Rob's decision to stop re entries, I think that was a tremendous move for the good of poker.
2 sentences that I totally agree with.
Yep.
A yep that I totally agree with.
Right, but did any of you enter the tournament?
This forum and the Facebook community group was just about in favour of scrapping re-entry. Yet clearly those people didn't play anyway.
So can see why Rob is tearing his hair out.
Probably couldn't phone the boss up every day this week last minute to get multiple days off work after binking a £2200 seat for a 5 day event which isn't transferable after cashing in the £500 freezeout event having already taken Monday and Tues off as holiday this week so decided against playing the £500. That was my reason for not playing the £500 event anyway.
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bobAlike
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Re: Happy Mondays
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Reply #184 on:
November 03, 2015, 06:40:15 PM »
Quote from: cambridgealex on November 03, 2015, 06:09:38 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 03, 2015, 05:41:38 PM
Quote from: david3103 on November 03, 2015, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on November 03, 2015, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: The Camel on November 03, 2015, 01:43:21 PM
I would much rather DTD lower their guarantees than allowed re entries again.
I massively applauded Rob's decision to stop re entries, I think that was a tremendous move for the good of poker.
2 sentences that I totally agree with.
Yep.
A yep that I totally agree with.
Right, but did any of you enter the tournament?
This forum and the Facebook community group was just about in favour of scrapping re-entry. Yet clearly those people didn't play anyway.
So can see why Rob is tearing his hair out.
I only play on a weekend when I don't need time off work. And that is why I didn't support this event. 5 days is a no no for me. If I'm going to book 5 days off work i'd rather spend it with my family and not a bunch of poker players
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arbboy
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Re: Happy Mondays
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Reply #185 on:
November 03, 2015, 06:45:48 PM »
Quote from: bobAlike on November 03, 2015, 06:40:15 PM
Quote from: cambridgealex on November 03, 2015, 06:09:38 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 03, 2015, 05:41:38 PM
Quote from: david3103 on November 03, 2015, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on November 03, 2015, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: The Camel on November 03, 2015, 01:43:21 PM
I would much rather DTD lower their guarantees than allowed re entries again.
I massively applauded Rob's decision to stop re entries, I think that was a tremendous move for the good of poker.
2 sentences that I totally agree with.
Yep.
A yep that I totally agree with.
Right, but did any of you enter the tournament?
This forum and the Facebook community group was just about in favour of scrapping re-entry. Yet clearly those people didn't play anyway.
So can see why Rob is tearing his hair out.
I only play on a weekend when I don't need time off work. And that is why I didn't support this event. 5 days is a no no for me. If I'm going to book 5 days off work i'd rather spend it with my family and not a bunch of poker players
Congrats on 5000th post bob!
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Re: Happy Mondays
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Reply #186 on:
November 03, 2015, 07:08:43 PM »
Quote from: nirvana on September 02, 2015, 06:42:59 PM
Quote from: Redbull on September 02, 2015, 05:50:11 PM
When I started reading the thread, my first thoughts were very much what Dave and Alex ended up posting. The re-entry option will give a small advantage to the Pro's, sure, but so small as to be largely insignificant to the recreational players in that tournament. It's more of a perception problem. In reality, the positives FAR outway the negatives by providing huge guarantees and the club absolutely packed on Deepstack weekends and festivals.
Late Reg (as it is now) is all about giving both local and travelling players more options. That is what DTD is all about. We all have commitments outside of poker and it allows more people to play depending on their circumstances. It is most definitely not an advantage to late reg a tournament and have less big blinds relative to the average.
As I think Rob said, he had tried to revert to the old way of short late reg and true freezeouts and it flopped. Rob and Simon must have all the data necessary to see how overall numbers were affected. Players just will not travel if traffic means they might get to DTD and then not be able to play. Players also won't travel if there is a risk they turn up to a main event, have their AA cracked, and then have to drive home. Recently the deepstacks and festivals are the busiest they've been with massive guarantees largely being met. There's the proof that the current late reg and re-entry policy is spot on imo.
As with many of these opinion polls, those that make the effort to post are often the ones that feel strongly against and want some change. Those that are happy with the status quo are far more likely to not make the effort to post and therefore we don't see a representative sample.
As mentioned above, I also thought Rob and Simon should test the idea again with an "Old Skool" festival with short late reg/true freezouts and see how popular it is. I'm pretty certain that the numbers will give a definitive answer.
IMHO it would be a huge mistake for the future of the club to change what is clearly working very well at the moment.
Theoretically, I'm firmly in the old school camp and would like genuine freezeouts in slightly bigger comps, probably like to see late reg/re-entry periods (if we're going to have them) cut too. Personally find it extremely dull to not see the player count reduce for an interminable period. I like the GUKPT side event structures with stack sizes that remind me of old times and give perfectly decent play for short comps. With all that said, I completely agree with this post and the one from Jakally earlier.
Can't see the rush of old school fans to retro comps outweighing the losses to footfall as well as prize pools. Things change, I choose not to move with it generally but I don't expect anyone to turn the clock back to suit a dwindling number of old timers - I'm certain it would be bad for business and I'm an expert on business
I gave this free, coulda charged £50k and both me and DTD would feel pretty farking good right now
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bobAlike
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Re: Happy Mondays
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Reply #187 on:
November 03, 2015, 07:15:05 PM »
Quote from: arbboy on November 03, 2015, 06:45:48 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on November 03, 2015, 06:40:15 PM
Quote from: cambridgealex on November 03, 2015, 06:09:38 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 03, 2015, 05:41:38 PM
Quote from: david3103 on November 03, 2015, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on November 03, 2015, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: The Camel on November 03, 2015, 01:43:21 PM
I would much rather DTD lower their guarantees than allowed re entries again.
I massively applauded Rob's decision to stop re entries, I think that was a tremendous move for the good of poker.
2 sentences that I totally agree with.
Yep.
A yep that I totally agree with.
Right, but did any of you enter the tournament?
This forum and the Facebook community group was just about in favour of scrapping re-entry. Yet clearly those people didn't play anyway.
So can see why Rob is tearing his hair out.
I only play on a weekend when I don't need time off work. And that is why I didn't support this event. 5 days is a no no for me. If I'm going to book 5 days off work i'd rather spend it with my family and not a bunch of poker players
Congrats on 5000th post bob!
Thanks Arb. Wish it was more profound
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MANTIS01
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Re: Happy Mondays
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Reply #188 on:
November 03, 2015, 07:16:56 PM »
Building something new will take time and I'd be wary about drawing firm conclusions from one weekend. Mad how you poker players insist it's all about the long term but get all swingy swongy after a single event.
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Re: Happy Mondays
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Reply #189 on:
November 03, 2015, 07:35:50 PM »
Quote from: cambridgealex on November 03, 2015, 06:09:38 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 03, 2015, 05:41:38 PM
Quote from: david3103 on November 03, 2015, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on November 03, 2015, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: The Camel on November 03, 2015, 01:43:21 PM
I would much rather DTD lower their guarantees than allowed re entries again.
I massively applauded Rob's decision to stop re entries, I think that was a tremendous move for the good of poker.
2 sentences that I totally agree with.
Yep.
A yep that I totally agree with.
Right, but did any of you enter the tournament?
This forum and the Facebook community group was just about in favour of scrapping re-entry. Yet clearly those people didn't play anyway.
So can see why Rob is tearing his hair out.
I think most of this forum and the facebook community were more concerned about the 40 bullets you could fire at the £70 grand prix rather than an extra shot or two at a £550 buy in WPT.
My reason for not wanting to play this one was nothing to do with how many entries you could have. It was the Monday/Tuesday days 2 and 3 that meant I didn't even attempt to win a seat via the excellent satellite programme.
As it happened I did play but only because I was forced to by virtue of a seat which was included within a prize pool.
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The Camel
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Re: Happy Mondays
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Reply #190 on:
November 03, 2015, 08:17:09 PM »
Quote from: EvilPie on November 03, 2015, 07:35:50 PM
Quote from: cambridgealex on November 03, 2015, 06:09:38 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 03, 2015, 05:41:38 PM
Quote from: david3103 on November 03, 2015, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on November 03, 2015, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: The Camel on November 03, 2015, 01:43:21 PM
I would much rather DTD lower their guarantees than allowed re entries again.
I massively applauded Rob's decision to stop re entries, I think that was a tremendous move for the good of poker.
2 sentences that I totally agree with.
Yep.
A yep that I totally agree with.
Right, but did any of you enter the tournament?
This forum and the Facebook community group was just about in favour of scrapping re-entry. Yet clearly those people didn't play anyway.
So can see why Rob is tearing his hair out.
I think most of this forum and the facebook community were more concerned about the 40 bullets you could fire at the £70 grand prix rather than an extra shot or two at a £550 buy in WPT.
My reason for not wanting to play this one was nothing to do with how many entries you could have. It was the Monday/Tuesday days 2 and 3 that meant I didn't even attempt to win a seat via the excellent satellite programme.
As it happened I did play but only because I was forced to by virtue of a seat which was included within a prize pool.
I didn't play because the cost of travelling and getting a hotel room is unjustifiable for a £500 event.
Basically makes it a £800 event if I'm staying for 2 nights and I would be fooling myself if I thought I had a 1.6 edge on the field.
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Re: Happy Mondays
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Reply #191 on:
November 03, 2015, 08:25:24 PM »
U could've stayed one night and played 4 flights. Make day two book another, seems very economical to me. Esp if you played cash and sats if you bust early.
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Re: Happy Mondays
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Reply #192 on:
November 03, 2015, 08:28:05 PM »
Quote from: cambridgealex on November 03, 2015, 06:09:38 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 03, 2015, 05:41:38 PM
Quote from: david3103 on November 03, 2015, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on November 03, 2015, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: The Camel on November 03, 2015, 01:43:21 PM
I would much rather DTD lower their guarantees than allowed re entries again.
I massively applauded Rob's decision to stop re entries, I think that was a tremendous move for the good of poker.
2 sentences that I totally agree with.
Yep.
A yep that I totally agree with.
Right, but did any of you enter the tournament?
This forum and the Facebook community group was just about in favour of scrapping re-entry. Yet clearly those people didn't play anyway.
So can see why Rob is tearing his hair out.
Are you saying that only those who are playing the event should be allowed an opinion?
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cambridgealex
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Re: Happy Mondays
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Reply #193 on:
November 03, 2015, 08:37:56 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 03, 2015, 08:28:05 PM
Quote from: cambridgealex on November 03, 2015, 06:09:38 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 03, 2015, 05:41:38 PM
Quote from: david3103 on November 03, 2015, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on November 03, 2015, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: The Camel on November 03, 2015, 01:43:21 PM
I would much rather DTD lower their guarantees than allowed re entries again.
I massively applauded Rob's decision to stop re entries, I think that was a tremendous move for the good of poker.
2 sentences that I totally agree with.
Yep.
A yep that I totally agree with.
Right, but did any of you enter the tournament?
This forum and the Facebook community group was just about in favour of scrapping re-entry. Yet clearly those people didn't play anyway.
So can see why Rob is tearing his hair out.
Are you saying that only those who are playing the event should be allowed an opinion?
Of course not, but it should be taken with a pinch of salt. It's like a chef asking a vegetarian whether there should be pork or lamb on the menu.
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Re: Happy Mondays
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Reply #194 on:
November 03, 2015, 08:55:37 PM »
Quote from: cambridgealex on November 03, 2015, 08:37:56 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 03, 2015, 08:28:05 PM
Quote from: cambridgealex on November 03, 2015, 06:09:38 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 03, 2015, 05:41:38 PM
Quote from: david3103 on November 03, 2015, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on November 03, 2015, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: The Camel on November 03, 2015, 01:43:21 PM
I would much rather DTD lower their guarantees than allowed re entries again.
I massively applauded Rob's decision to stop re entries, I think that was a tremendous move for the good of poker.
2 sentences that I totally agree with.
Yep.
A yep that I totally agree with.
Right, but did any of you enter the tournament?
This forum and the Facebook community group was just about in favour of scrapping re-entry. Yet clearly those people didn't play anyway.
So can see why Rob is tearing his hair out.
Are you saying that only those who are playing the event should be allowed an opinion?
Of course not, but it should be taken with a pinch of salt. It's like a chef asking a vegetarian whether there should be pork or lamb on the menu.
I don't agree.
For a start, just because I didn't play this competition doesn't mean I will never play any competition, so your vegetarian analogy doesn't work.
Even if I never play again, I still understand the issues, so why should my opinion be taken with a pinch of salt? That sounds like a euphemism for "Not valid" to me.
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